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Using inductive proximity sensors to measure displacement.

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Former Member over 10 years ago

http://uk.farnell.com/multicomp/mcpip-t30l-001/sensor-m30-pnp-shielded-no/dp/2218049

 

I just bought these, later did I found out that inductive proximity sensors can detect metal in close proximity rather than the distance. I wanted to know if it's possible to by any simple modifications to this sensor that may result in measuring distance. I want to measure displacements of a steel shaft from 0~10mm and I am unable to find a cheap non-contact sensor for that purpose.

 

I had a read here: Position – Sensor Solutions | DigiKey TechZone


"Inductive sensors use a coil to generate a high frequency oscillating magnetic field to detect metallic objects. When a metal target enters the sensing field, eddy currents are induced in the target, which reduces the signal amplitude and triggers a change of state in the sensor output."

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member +1
    You need to specify or describe your system in much more detail for anyone to make a decent sensor recommendation: The first question is " why not measure the force directly" - unless you describe the…
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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Basically yes. Thanks alot I'll have a look at these. These seem quite useful

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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago

    Thanks everyone, I'll have a look at these alternatives and decide what can be done

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  • D_Hersey
    0 D_Hersey over 10 years ago

    Let me echo Doug W.'s concern about stray fields with the capacitance scheme.  To avoid this you may be able to build a Faraday shield.  This can be perforated, as long as the diameter of the holes is smaller than 1/4 wave at your highest frequency of interest.

     

    If you google for it, you can find a capacitance multiplier circuit that can be constructed from an op-amp.  This works for a capacitor that is returned to the supply.   Also google for an 'op-amp relaxation oscillator.'  The output of which you can count.  Using the multiplier increases sensitivity, while using the CCO gives you a squared-up signal that is easy to transmit.  You can get all of this functionality integrated from vendors such as TI.  I think their trade name is CapSense.

     

    You might want to use a machine scale on your 'slot' to know the point you are measuring.  You might use a ballscrew car to move your sensor.  If you get a dual-shaft motor, you can operate manually or by controller.

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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    hi

    I have a similar issue. I want to measure distance in micro meter range and then calibrate the movement to identify force applied to the system.

    which sensor i should use ?

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    0 michaelkellett over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    You need to specify or describe your system in  much more detail for anyone to make  a decent sensor recommendation:

     

    The first question is " why not measure the force directly" - unless you describe the system we don't know.

     

    Then you need to give other information like bandwidth (frequency range) resolution, accuracy, environment, size constraints, acceptable cost range etc etc.

     

    MK

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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    image

    Well this is what the system looks like. As a replacement for now I am planning to use Linear Ratiometric Hall Effect Sensors to measure the displacement when the shaft vibrates. These are cheaper and for that I'll have to attach magnetic collars at different positions along the shaft.

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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    please check details in this post

     

    http://www.element14.com/community/message/142871/l/how-to-find-resolution-of-capacitative-sensors#142871

     

    i Think you will be really good person to discuss this matter as you have way more experience in it.

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  • dougw
    0 dougw over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    If the frequency is high enough, you could try using guitar pickup sensors - or make your own.

    For best performance, check out how to design a humbucker pickup and the various variants.

    Doug

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  • ishwagle
    0 ishwagle over 7 years ago in reply to dougw

    Hello I wanted to ask If I can measure the distance of a metallic indictor plate by the inductive sensor? Can the sensor be used where asphalt is used? I have checked few inductive sesnors which operate at more than 160 degrees centigrade. But what would be the affect of temperature fluctuation in the measurement?

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    0 dougw over 7 years ago in reply to ishwagle

    Buried inductive sensors are used at road intersections to detect vehicles in the turning lane. They would need to be built with wire that has high temperature insulation for your application. The signal level would be proportional to the size of the plate, its material, its shape and its distance. Think of a metal detector circuit...

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