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Sensor Forum Is there really a need for battery-based sensors in the home beyond windows and doors?
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Is there really a need for battery-based sensors in the home beyond windows and doors?

user4517
user4517 over 2 years ago

I am in the process of completing a Fuel Oil Tank sensor for my home. I originally worked on code to maximize battery life assuming the need to have a battery, but recently realized I could just implement a USB power converter near the oil tank to feed the sensor. It made me wonder what sensors would require battery support over low voltage direct cable. Here is a list of sensors I believe would not require batteries, and after that list which one's would need batteries. I would enjoy hearing feedback on my list and your perceptions on use of batteries in home sensors.

Don't need batteries:

1 Appliance sensors, including plugs, lights, switches, kitchen appliances, water heater, laundry appliances, HVAC, overall power monitoring and water monitoring.

2. Human location and environmental sensors, including PIM or room movement, environmental (air/gas, temp, level of light, etc.). Also, mmWave sensing for GPS like functionality in the home.

3. Security camaras for outside house where the camaras are mounted on the house (Wi-Fi and POE). In-house camaras that are mounted in the ceiling or in entertainment\computer devices.

Do need batteries:

1. Stand-alone camaras for in-house (Naney cams, or other hidden cameras) Note: many room camera could be connected to existing entertainment or computer devices in a room eliminating the need for batteries

2. External disconnected cameras and environmental sensors (weather stations), and other remote monitoring for security or eventing.

3. Human wearable devices

as you can see the list of Do not need is extensive and the need for most of the do need are limited use, with the only exception being wearable devices.

Let me know what you think.

Pat

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago +3
    Hi, This is a good list, but there are circumstances that can cause this to change a bit, especially environment sensors, occupancy sensors and so on, for homes and businesses. Sometimes homes need…
  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago +2
    I avoid batteries whenever possible. What does need a battery? flashlight, TV remote, DVM, camera, cell phone, robot, possibly fire alarm.
  • Andrew J
    Andrew J over 2 years ago in reply to dougw +2
    I’m the complete opposite and prefer batteries over trailing cables. Having said that I prefer to not have sensors or such like in the home because I find a switch, my finger and my legs very useful for…
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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 2 years ago

    You would run into regulatory problems with any mains powered device connected to a fuel level sensor.

    The one that came with my oil tank uses a small battery and a radio link.  There is a minumum distance that the tank must be from the house so running wires would be  pain.

    MK

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    michaelkellett over 2 years ago

    You would run into regulatory problems with any mains powered device connected to a fuel level sensor.

    The one that came with my oil tank uses a small battery and a radio link.  There is a minumum distance that the tank must be from the house so running wires would be  pain.

    MK

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  • user4517
    user4517 over 2 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Yea, that crossed my mind too. I did isolate all electronics from access to the tank internals only exposing the two sensor fronts. There is a sealed boundary between the sensor electronics (both PI Pico and sensor circuit board) and the oil tank.

    Low voltage 5v connection might be allowed but I'm finding it difficult to find any answers on that. I'm looking into it right now. Relying on AA batteries just doesn't make it for daily operational use and putting in a lithium ion is dangerous. 

    What you have to do to keep the sensor in deep sleep is more complicated than I expected but I will write code to do it just to learn. If I can deep sleep. If I can get a battery to last a couple of months, I might go with that.

    The electronics and code are common now so the housing was my one innovation which I'll share when it's done. A nice package for under $7 using just PVC type piping components.

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