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Is there really a need for battery-based sensors in the home beyond windows and doors?

user4517
user4517 over 2 years ago

I am in the process of completing a Fuel Oil Tank sensor for my home. I originally worked on code to maximize battery life assuming the need to have a battery, but recently realized I could just implement a USB power converter near the oil tank to feed the sensor. It made me wonder what sensors would require battery support over low voltage direct cable. Here is a list of sensors I believe would not require batteries, and after that list which one's would need batteries. I would enjoy hearing feedback on my list and your perceptions on use of batteries in home sensors.

Don't need batteries:

1 Appliance sensors, including plugs, lights, switches, kitchen appliances, water heater, laundry appliances, HVAC, overall power monitoring and water monitoring.

2. Human location and environmental sensors, including PIM or room movement, environmental (air/gas, temp, level of light, etc.). Also, mmWave sensing for GPS like functionality in the home.

3. Security camaras for outside house where the camaras are mounted on the house (Wi-Fi and POE). In-house camaras that are mounted in the ceiling or in entertainment\computer devices.

Do need batteries:

1. Stand-alone camaras for in-house (Naney cams, or other hidden cameras) Note: many room camera could be connected to existing entertainment or computer devices in a room eliminating the need for batteries

2. External disconnected cameras and environmental sensors (weather stations), and other remote monitoring for security or eventing.

3. Human wearable devices

as you can see the list of Do not need is extensive and the need for most of the do need are limited use, with the only exception being wearable devices.

Let me know what you think.

Pat

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago +3
    Hi, This is a good list, but there are circumstances that can cause this to change a bit, especially environment sensors, occupancy sensors and so on, for homes and businesses. Sometimes homes need…
  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago +2
    I avoid batteries whenever possible. What does need a battery? flashlight, TV remote, DVM, camera, cell phone, robot, possibly fire alarm.
  • Andrew J
    Andrew J over 2 years ago in reply to dougw +2
    I’m the complete opposite and prefer batteries over trailing cables. Having said that I prefer to not have sensors or such like in the home because I find a switch, my finger and my legs very useful for…
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  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago

    I avoid batteries whenever possible. What does need a battery? flashlight, TV remote, DVM, camera, cell phone, robot, possibly fire alarm.

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  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo over 2 years ago in reply to dougw

    dougw  I have a Love/Hate relationship with batteries - especially my rechargeables.  I liken it to when the kids were still at home and having to constantly change the toilet paper because there was always just an empty roll.  AGAIN?!!     It pains me to pay $20 for 20 AA batteries.  I've also got the Harbor Freight ones, $2 for 24, but these really are "You get what you pay for."

    I wall wart when I can.

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    kmikemoo over 2 years ago in reply to dougw

    dougw  I have a Love/Hate relationship with batteries - especially my rechargeables.  I liken it to when the kids were still at home and having to constantly change the toilet paper because there was always just an empty roll.  AGAIN?!!     It pains me to pay $20 for 20 AA batteries.  I've also got the Harbor Freight ones, $2 for 24, but these really are "You get what you pay for."

    I wall wart when I can.

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  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago in reply to kmikemoo

    Wall warts are great, but the number keeps multiplying. House wiring outlets were never designed to accommodate endless wall warts.

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 2 years ago in reply to dougw

    Hence why Europe is trying to move to standardise on USB-C chargers but there will still likely be issues. Difference in power output for one, and still the problem of 'peak demand' where you still need to charge multiple devices at once at the end of the working shift. Also warranty claims being rejected because you used an unapproved 3rd party charging device...

    Office environments neither. I often have to use 19" rack vertical PDU strips to plug in about 10-15 wall warts at a time. 

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  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago in reply to kmikemoo

    I have to keep a stock of batteries, cables and wall warts because as a techie, wherever "someone" needs something, I am just expected to have whatever they need...Confused

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  • user4517
    user4517 over 2 years ago in reply to beacon_dave

    the usb plugs are a nightmare. I have so many wires with slightly different forms which include differences for even USB 3.x. They need to reduce the usb connecter to just one, the small one. I don't see any value in the older larger one.

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