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Polarity Sense Circuit

jw0752
jw0752 over 10 years ago

In one of my recent builds it was necessary to come up with a circuit that would sense if the inputs were hooked up reverse polarity. I came up with this circuit:

 

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I have tested this circuit to 100 volts DC on its Test Input terminals. If the Test Inputs are under normal polarity the output is LOW and if the Test Inputs are under reverse polarity the Output is HIGH. Unfortunately the Test Inputs will not sense a reversed polarity below 3.5 Volts. While these limitations were not a problem for my build I am curious if there are other better circuits to test polarity than what I cooked up here. Also if you see problems with the circuit above any critique would be appreciated. R1 limits the forward current through LED1 which acts like a zener and keeps the voltage Gate to Drain from exceeding breakdown limits. D1 is reverse biased under proper polarity. R2 keeps the P CH MOSFET off until there is a Negative Voltage applied at the gate by a reversed Test Input polarity.

 

Thanks John

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  • johnbeetem
    johnbeetem over 10 years ago +2
    I don't know what your application is for this polarity sense circuit, but if you're worried about DC power inputs being hooked up incorrectly you might consider using a Schottky Diode Bridge for your…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 10 years ago in reply to jw0752 +2
    Hi John, I once took apart a very old touch tone phone (probably a trimline), it was interesting to see that they used analog tone generation circuitry! using pot core wound transformers for the tone generation…
  • Robert Peter Oakes
    Robert Peter Oakes over 10 years ago +1
    without an OP-Amp or other transistor your limited by the Diode voltages and also the VGS Threshold of the FET so without making it much more complex it seems you hae a good solution or what you needed…
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    0 johnbeetem over 10 years ago

    Sounds like a good use for a spare LM339 comparator image: http://www.element14.com/community/message/157410/l/lm-339-comparator-question#157410

     

    The best polarity-sense circuit for this depends a lot on how much input impedance you want on the test inputs.  If you'd like them to be high-impedance, a comparator IC is a good way to go.  If you need electrical isolation and don't mind a high current draw, then an opto-isolator is good.

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    0 johnbeetem over 10 years ago

    Sounds like a good use for a spare LM339 comparator image: http://www.element14.com/community/message/157410/l/lm-339-comparator-question#157410

     

    The best polarity-sense circuit for this depends a lot on how much input impedance you want on the test inputs.  If you'd like them to be high-impedance, a comparator IC is a good way to go.  If you need electrical isolation and don't mind a high current draw, then an opto-isolator is good.

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    0 jw0752 over 10 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

    Hi John

    I like the thinking. I clicked on the link you provided and I was looking at my own behind. I actually tried to make the circuit originally with a comparator but I did not do a good job with the input circuit so I move on to a different approach. Since the inputs I was testing and the comparator had a common ground with the comparator my reverse polarity pulled the inputs of the comparator well below Vss. Now I am thinking that I can get around that problem with a split supply or a better design of the circuit that feeds the inputs of the comparator.

     

    My continued quest on this subject is motivated primarily by curiosity. The circuit in the DC Load is working well within parameters for my application. Frequently, however, an application catches my interest and I like to push it to see what the limits are and what other approaches there are to the problem.

     

    Thanks for your input and for reminding me of the unused LM339 sections.

    John

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