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Ship dates?

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Former Member over 13 years ago

So I just checked into my account online, and under Ship Date, for the Pi I ordered on 29 Feb., it says "30 March". I know there was some confusion over ship dates early on, so thought I'd ask - is this ship date shown in my account roughly accurate? I would be oh so happy to receive my Pi in a couple weeks.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago

    My Newark (US) order just got bumped from 2 Apr to 16 Aug. :'-(

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  • nlarson
    nlarson over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi there - we found out the cause for this jump to August - it was a system auto-generated error from our website to Newark element14 customers.  So sorry for this confusing messaging. image  We've recently posted a discussion regarding the specifics of the issue here: http://www.element14.com/community/thread/17532. 

     

    Additionally, Raspberry Pi Foundation has communicated about this issue as well:

    https://twitter.com/#!/Raspberry_Pi/status/185128191529193473

     

    Thanks,

    Nicole

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to GreenYamo

    Please keep up. The issue was that at this stage the Pi was considered a development board for geeks and nerds. The certification would have come later with the cased, boxed model for consumers

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  • morgaine
    morgaine over 13 years ago in reply to GreenYamo

    My guess:  they're good engineers, but they're terrible planners, failed to get professional advice on matters of law and regulation, and are totally unskilled at public relations judging by the forum mess.  I just hope this rather bad cocktail doesn't derail getting Rpi into education, because we really do need it.  I know that from personal experience in academia.

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  • morgaine
    morgaine over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    @bob: Don't fall for that Foundation excuse, it makes zero sense.  The 10k of the first batch is a lot of boards, and a large proportion of them are going into normal homes as consumer devices, not restricted to electronics engineers or radio amateurs.  And these boards are being SOLD, not handed out to testers for pre-release checking.  The odd dozen boards might be able to escape consumer regulations on the grounds of being prototypes, but not 10k, that's a full production release.  The community is being sold a bridge there.

     

    PS.  I have loads of microcontroller development boards here, purchased as products.  They're all fully certified.

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to GreenYamo

    The RPi Foundation likes the "10k dev boards no certification" myth, and they said "we took legal advice".

    So I -had- to point out that they needed to "get legal advice somewhere else", since "your credibility is taking a hit". That was a mistake!

    Now, I  think their credibility is long gone (right now I only trust their partners), but seems like I need to be "lawyer specialising in this area" to comment on such a matter. Who are they kidding?

    Maybe saying them I had my share with certifications stuff made me a troll, and it seems I achieved a nice ban. Where's the "community" in that? Maybe I should've posted professional references?

    Funny enough, I know  what happens without so called "compliance testing" and "certifications", and if this causes a late ship, well I'm 100% with Farnell (or RS) regarding this matter (I blame the Foundation); I think nobody wants the RPi halted at some customs for some random reason, right? Because that's what would have happened in at least 5 EU nations.

    Sorry if I rant here, but  here I could say what I think, clearly,  and no one accused me of -some internet slang stuff here-; maybe here we are more like customers than overage kids in a power trip?

    Long live to the old good profit business model, for god sake!

    On the bright side, if the manufacturing is -like they say- licensed to Farnell and RS, this should reduce their (Foundation) presence and put the whole thing in more competent hands, which will be good for sure.

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    I also won the troll ban, they don't like at all people that post comments criticizing what they do and have a dedicated and devoted group of minions to answer questions that nobody asked, generate additional smoke clouds around lame excuses and cry wolf that are not being paid for the job they do.

     

    The RPi was a great idea but profit or non-profit they really failed to execute on their promise, and always blaming somebody else for their shortcomings.

     

    As a development prototype the board doesn't look bad, but if the actual boards are exactly like the ones being posted around and the layout artwork made public is the actual one, I can easily identify several design flaws, but don't even try to point them because you will get exterminated by the minions.

     

    I'm almost sure that after the initial batch the distributors will ask for a proper redesign.

     

    Shame, it was a good proposition to have an ARM based simple Linux board for $35, and I concur with the same feeling that credibility is gone.

     

    My apologies also for the rant.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Oh I forgot that! You could criticize the board itself too! Life for RPF detractor is so harsh... image

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Well you haven't been troll banned here - so - why not let me know where you feel the design flaws are - and something positive can come out of it.  Would hate to miss anything on a re-design.  For sure the volume manufacturers will ask for changes - and they have been offered whatever they feel they need.  Development never stops or with the current issues - sleeps.

     

    If you would like some hi-res pics just let me know.

     

    Pete

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  • nlarson
    nlarson over 13 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Thanks Morgaine - happy to provide updates as I get them!  Also, we started blogging our updates here so it's easier to follow the history.  Hope it helps tame some of the confusion image

     

    best,

    Nicole

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Well, I'm interested in that too, I'd like to know what kind of design flaw you've seen.

    I can point out ethernet and usb misalignement, or the lack of mounting holes on the pcb, but I don't think those alone are things requiring a redesign.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to nlarson

    I understand what you wrote in the blog, and I was prepared to wait from the start, I always expect something to happen, good or bad... it's life.

    Now a questions arises: supposing there are no further delays, for compliance testing or re-design issue (see posts above), since you say your manufacturing partners have the stock of parts... any idea fo the n° of ready to sell units/week they'll be able to pull? Just an estimate would be fine, thanks.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to nlarson

    I understand what you wrote in the blog, and I was prepared to wait from the start, I always expect something to happen, good or bad... it's life.

    Now a questions arises: supposing there are no further delays, for compliance testing or re-design issue (see posts above), since you say your manufacturing partners have the stock of parts... any idea fo the n° of ready to sell units/week they'll be able to pull? Just an estimate would be fine, thanks.

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