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Burglar Alarm to Door Buzzer Using a Monostable Circuit

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Former Member over 10 years ago

At work we are currently using what I suspect is a burglar alarm as a door buzzer. It's inappropriately loud to have buzzing the entire time the door is ajar (from barely open onward), as we're a motel and it's frankly obnoxious. However in order to hear people come in from the basement, it's what the folks in charge decided to use. I would very much like to create a monostable circuit so it buzzes for a small amount of time then turns off until the door is shut again, re-arming the buzzer. The buzzer works using a momentary switch that is pressed when the door is shut and released when the door is open. This switch is connected to what looks like a transformer core, and the device also plugs into our AC outlet.

 

I have looked at circuits online, but even using a few simulators I was unable to produce results like I wanted. Can I have some advice? I'm new to electrical engineering.

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    jw0752 over 10 years ago +1
    Hi Simon, I have set up a mock up of an improved circuit which allows the door switch to close and remain closed. The components that I have selected for C1 and R1 give a time of approximately 5 seconds…
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    jw0752 over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Simon, The relay should be rated at about 9 Volts DC and no more than 200 mA. This would mean the relay coil resistance will have to be more than 100 ohms. If it is more it will be better as this will put less load on the 555 Timer.

    John

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    Former Member over 10 years ago

    It seems like you and I were on the same page then. This is what I had settled on.

     

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    jw0752 over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    I Agree - John

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    Former Member over 10 years ago

    This is my preliminary bill of materials. I'm still looking for a relay, and am unsure whether or not the connectors I've listed are acceptable for my application.

     

    D103Z25Z5VF63L6R - VISHAY BC COMPONENTS D103Z25Z5VF63L6R - CAPACITOR CERAMIC, 0.01UF, 50V, Z5V, RADIAL | Newark element1…

    ECQ-E2335JB - PANASONIC ELECTRONIC COMPONENTS ECQ-E2335JB - CAPACITOR FILM, 3.3uF, 250V, 5%, RADIAL | Newark element14 U…

    ECA-1VM471 - PANASONIC ELECTRONIC COMPONENTS ECA-1VM471 - CAPACITOR ALUM ELEC, 470UF, 35V, 20%, RADIAL | Newark element1…

    MCMFF04FF2001A50 - MULTICOMP MCMFF04FF2001A50 - RESISTOR, METAL FILM, 2KOHM, 400mW, 1% | Newark element14 US

    MCRE000049 - MULTICOMP MCRE000049 - RESISTOR, CARBON FILM, 10KOHM, 125mW, 5% | Newark element14 US

    1N4148. - MULTICOMP 1N4148. - SMALL SIGNAL DIODE 100V 150mA DO-35 | Newark element14 US

    NE555P - TEXAS INSTRUMENTS NE555P - IC, PRECISION TIMER, SINGLE, 500KHZ, 16V, DIP-8 | Newark element14 US

    PV-CM-S 2,5-6 image - PHOENIX CONTACT PV-CM-S 2,5-6 image - CONNECTOR, PLUG, 1POS | Newark element14 US

    PV-CF-S 2,5-6 image - PHOENIX CONTACT PV-CF-S 2,5-6 image - CONNECTOR, SOCKET, 1POS | Newark element14 US

    SRB22A2BBBNN - CHERRY SRB22A2BBBNN - SWITCH, ROCKER, SPST, 10A, 250V, BLACK | Newark element14 US

     

    The DC wall adapter and receptacle, internal wiring, a breadboard (I don't think I'll etch this) are also on my list but they're probably fairly straightforward. I'm familiar with the 555 timer's ratings so as long as I don't exceed them (voltage, current) I should be fine, correct?

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    Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to jw0752

    If my Ohm's Law is correct, wouldn't I need (if using a 12V DC supply) 60 Ohms of coil resistance? Nonetheless here is one I found that may be suitable, possibly overkill (but at least not UK stock.)

     

    HE721A1200 - HAMLIN HE721A1200 - REED RELAY, SPST-NO, 12VDC, 0.5A, THD | Newark element14 US

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    jw0752 over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Simon, I really like the way you are researching and checking things out. Your Ohms law is corrent but I do not want the relay to end up drawing the max current that the 555 can deliver without damage. I want the relay to draw mabe half or 100 mA if possible. Also we will loose some of the 12 volt supply inside the 555 timer so the actual voltage on the relay may be 10 or 11 volts. If we have 10 volts and 100 mA then our resistance should be 100 ohms approx. The other consideration when we choose the relay will be the Amp rating on the contacts. I would estimate that 5 amps will be adequate. If the contacts are rated for more, even better. I will try to look at your parts list later.

    John

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    jw0752 over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    The relay you showed me does not have contacts that can handle the likely current of the buzzer. The fact that you had trouble with the door switches indicated that the buzzer may be drawing a fair amount of current.

    John

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    jw0752 over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    D103Z25Z5VF63L6R - VISHAY BC COMPONENTS D103Z25Z5VF63L6R - CAPACITOR CERAMIC, 0.01UF, 50V, Z5V, RADIAL | Newark element1…

    OK

    ECQ-E2335JB - PANASONIC ELECTRONIC COMPONENTS ECQ-E2335JB - CAPACITOR FILM, 3.3uF, 250V, 5%, RADIAL | Newark element14 U…

    OK

    ECA-1VM471 - PANASONIC ELECTRONIC COMPONENTS ECA-1VM471 - CAPACITOR ALUM ELEC, 470UF, 35V, 20%, RADIAL | Newark element1…

    OK

    MCMFF04FF2001A50 - MULTICOMP MCMFF04FF2001A50 - RESISTOR, METAL FILM, 2KOHM, 400mW, 1% | Newark element14 US

    OK  larger mW than necessary and better precission than necessary

    MCRE000049 - MULTICOMP MCRE000049 - RESISTOR, CARBON FILM, 10KOHM, 125mW, 5% | Newark element14 US

    OK

    1N4148. - MULTICOMP 1N4148. - SMALL SIGNAL DIODE 100V 150mA DO-35 | Newark element14 US

    No Get a regular Schottky like a 1N5819 while your choice will work we might as well put in a little heavier duty.

    NE555P - TEXAS INSTRUMENTS NE555P - IC, PRECISION TIMER, SINGLE, 500KHZ, 16V, DIP-8 | Newark element14 US

    OK

    PV-CM-S 2,5-6 - PHOENIX CONTACT PV-CM-S 2,5-6 - CONNECTOR, PLUG, 1POS | Newark element14 US

    PV-CF-S 2,5-6 - PHOENIX CONTACT PV-CF-S 2,5-6 - CONNECTOR, SOCKET, 1POS | Newark element14 US

    OK designer choice.

    SRB22A2BBBNN - CHERRY SRB22A2BBBNN - SWITCH, ROCKER, SPST, 10A, 250V, BLACK | Newark element14 US

    OK

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    Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to jw0752

    Thanks for the advice on that diode. I wasn't sure what was considered a standard diode, so I eliminated a few that were obviously not what I was looking for. As for the 2K resistors, they were the cheapest ones so as long as they're ok and available, I'll stick with them.

     

    I found a relay (I could only find 3A ones at Newark) and a power supply that would work with it. I also have 13.5V options for a power supply, I just need a power supply a little over the relay coil's nominal voltage correct?

     

    5501-12-1 - COTO TECHNOLOGY 5501-12-1 - REED RELAY, SPST-NO, 12VDC, 3A, THD | Newark element14 US

    WSU150-0560-R - TRIAD MAGNETICS WSU150-0560-R - AC-DC CONV, EXTERNAL PLUG IN, 1 O/P, 8.4W, 15V | Newark element14 US

     

    and a diode, perhaps C3D02060A - CREE C3D02060A - SIC SCHOTTKY DIODE, 2A, 600V TO-220 | Newark element14 US (all I'm seeing on Newark is UK stock for that part number.)

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    jw0752 over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Simon,

    Check out Newark part # 17M1743  and # 18C9038.

    John

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