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  • Author Author: fmilburn
  • Date Created: 1 May 2022 3:43 AM Date Created
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fmilburn
fmilburn
1 May 2022

If you are like me you don't use the XY plot function on your oscilloscope often but it can be handy at times.  I was reviewing videos by W2AEW on YouTube and saw this one where he describes a simple method for viewing components using only a waveform generator and an oscilloscope.  The short (less than 3 minutes) video below demonstrates how it works.

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The setup is quite simple.

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The function generator produces a triangular waveform across the DUT which is in series with a shunt resistor used to measure current.  The oscilloscope in XY mode has the X-axis set to measure the voltage across the DUT while the current is displayed on the Y-axis.  There is a problem with this setup, however.  The X-axis probe is measuring the voltage across both the DUT and the shunt resistor.  This can be acceptable if the voltage drop across the shunt resistor is small.  Some oscilloscopes allow the math function to be used in XY mode so that the voltage across the shunt resistor can be subtracted from the DUT reading.  Mine does not.  Other approaches would be to use a differential probe for the DUT or a current sensing probe for the current.

My oscilloscope is a Keysight DSO-X 1102G which has a built-in waveform generator.  The waveform generator was set to 50-ohm output with a 3V p-p symmetric triangle wave.  To get a clean trace the acquire mode on the oscilloscope has been set to high resolution.

The screenshot below shows a red LED under test.

Red LED Under Test

Thanks for reading and comments are always welcome!

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  • Andrew J
    Andrew J 10 months ago +1
    I thought the quality was good. In fact, I actually thought the embedded video was from W2AEW and I spent some minutes scratching my head working out why your comment made no sense!! Great post.
  • fmilburn
    fmilburn 10 months ago in reply to beacon_dave +1
    Thanks, I've corrected the typo. That is a good point about 50Ω output mode. I may remake the video when I get my new microphone - don't want to add any more confusion to the internet than is already out…
  • dougw
    dougw 10 months ago in reply to fmilburn

    I tried it on my scope and it seems to work fine. There is no problem inverting a channel. I ran the scope's function generator through a 100 microfarad non-polarized cap to isolate the triangle wave, but a separate isolated generator might be better.

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    fmilburn 10 months ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Thanks, I've corrected the typo.  That is a good point about 50Ω output mode.  I may remake the video when I get my new microphone - don't want to add any more confusion to the internet than is already out there :-)  Here is a link to a Keysight video on Hi-Z for those interested:  Don't Fall Into This Output Impedance Trap! - YouTube

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    fmilburn 10 months ago in reply to dougw

    I'm not sure...  The voltage difference between that junction and ground on the oscilloscope is minimal but would that cause a short to earth?  I would have to check if I can invert the signal in XY mode.

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave 10 months ago

    Another nice post.

    FYI you have a slight typo on the scope model number though: 
    "...My oscilloscope is a Keysight DS)X1102G..."

    Some viewers may be confused by your 3V peak-to-peak voltage comments as the scope waveform appears to be showing 6Vpp ( although you do mention that the generator is in 50Ω output mode ). Would the Hi-Z output setting perhaps be more appropriate here as I've seen it used in the Keysight training materials ?

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  • dougw
    dougw 10 months ago

    Very interesting.

    Suppose you used the junction between the DUT and the resistor as your scope ground and inverted the current probe signal, would your scope be able to handle that? Would you need an isolated function generator for that scenario?

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