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The best transistor replacement

b139b
b139b over 2 years ago

Hello everyone. Hope you all are doing well Thumbsup
I need some smart input from you... I am looking for some replacement transistors for my old tape recorder. The recorder sounds like a thunderstorm, so I think one transistor is bad. Since those transistors (BC330C, BC237B, BC238B) not are available anymore, I am looking for replacements.

In this case, since the design already is given, is "typical hfe" the parameter witch is most important to match with the original transistor? - To keep the same amplification steps. 


All maximum-voltages must of course to be the same or higher to the original.

I have some BC550C with hfe=420-800. Is it correct to think that the typical hfe for the BC550C is in the middle of this values =610 ? Too much amplification in my case?
Any input is appreciated Blush
Christian

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  • baldengineer
    baldengineer over 2 years ago +3
    b139b said: The recorder sounds like a thunderstorm, so I think one transistor is bad Have you already replaced the electrolytic capacitors? They are far more likely to have gone bad.
  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 2 years ago in reply to baldengineer +3
    That and potentiometers ... *crackle crackle - Gough
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago +2
    Hi, The BC550 is likely fine for all of these NPN transistors, since the actual transistor gain doesn't matter usually (because the circuit will control the actual gain). The BC550 is a very decent substitute…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago

    Hi,

    The BC550 is likely fine for all of these NPN transistors, since the actual transistor gain doesn't matter usually (because the circuit will control the actual gain). The BC550 is a very decent substitute for most TO-92 NPN transistors I expect. It's my standard go-to transistor (well, the BC549 version) for non-RF stuff.

    You could swap out one transistor at a time, replacing it back if it makes no difference. However you have voltages labelled on the schematic, so you can actually do the testing in-circuit with a multimeter.

    Are you sure it's not just a faulty switch or noisy potentiometer? Silicon transistors are very reliable. I have a ~60 year old radio receiver on my desk and it is still functioning.

    You could also use a test tool (or a crystal earpiece) to view or listen to the audio too; the crystal earpiece is non-intrusive to most of the circuit. Ideally you'd want to use an oscilloscope if you have access to it however.

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  • baldengineer
    baldengineer over 2 years ago
    b139b said:
    The recorder sounds like a thunderstorm, so I think one transistor is bad

    Have you already replaced the electrolytic capacitors?

    They are far more likely to have gone bad.

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  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 2 years ago in reply to baldengineer

    That and potentiometers ...

    *crackle crackle

    - Gough

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  • gordonmx
    gordonmx over 2 years ago

    Just a little more info please.  What does "sounds like a thunderstorm" mean?  When you adjust the volume does the sound change?  Does the sound occur for both tapes you recorded and pre-recorded?  Gordon

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  • bidrohini
    bidrohini over 2 years ago

    BC550C  can be an option. You need to study its datasheet to find out if the operating voltage and package type matches with your previous transistors.

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  • JWx
    JWx over 2 years ago in reply to gordonmx

    that maybe it - dirty heads and/or degraded tapes... I have once seen a (long unused) VHS recorder that was outputting an image distorted by "snow" noise for some time until - it seems - heads cleaned themselves running against the tape and the image improved...

    Or maybe mains frequency: either in speakers (so maybe dried-up capacitors) or from the mains transformer (I have one DVD player that has transformer vibrating and generating noise - sometimes tightening screws helps, but not for long in my case - maybe the core got damaged/loose after drop and some resin is needed)

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  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 2 years ago

    https://uk.farnell.com/multicomp/bc237b/transistor-npn-to-92/dp/1574377

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  • b139b
    b139b over 2 years ago

    Thank you all for your replies! Great community! 

    The Thunderstorm is heat depended...came when I thought the player was fixed after the backlid was on. I have changed all electrolytes and C2. With a oscilloscope/RTA I can see that the signal is ok at the left side of C2 but the noise is present at the right. I have tried to find the faulty component by knocking on the components, potmeters too. Cool them with freezespray... heat with a heatingun but no component changed clearly.

    Thanks for the link to BC237B Blush

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 2 years ago in reply to jc2048

    The worst case noise figure for the Multicomp BC237 is much worse than for the BC330C or BC550 (although the typical figure is similar). The OP's schematic doesn't give enough context to know if that matters much or not .

    My source for BC330 data is not that traceable either !

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  • b139b
    b139b over 2 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Thanks Blush

    So the BC550C would be a better choice? Both BC237B and BC550C are low noise types 

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