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Parallella $99 board now open hardware on Github

morgaine
morgaine over 12 years ago

It's probably spreading everywhere like wildfire, but I just read on Olimex's blog that Adapteva's Parallella kickstarter board now has almost all of its development materials on Github in Parallela and Adapteva repos, and is officially being launched as open hardware.

 

The 16-core board is priced at US$99 and its host ARM is a dual-core Cortex-A9 (Xilinx Zynq 7010 or 7020).  It comes with 1GB DDR3, host and client USB, native gigabit Ethernet and HDMI, so at that price this would be a fairly interesting board even without its 16-core Epiphany coprocessor.  (There's a 64-core version planned too.)  For more details see the Parallella Reference Manual.

 

This has all the makings of a pretty fun board.  I hope Element 14 has one eye open in that direction. image

 

Morgaine.

 

 

PS. Note the 4 x Parallella Expansion Connectors (PEC) on the bottom of the board, illustrated on page 19 of the manual and documented on page 26.  They look very flexible for projects, providing access to both Zynq and Epiphany resources.

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    michaelkellett over 11 years ago in reply to johnbeetem +2
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    Former Member over 12 years ago +1
    Morgaine Dinova wrote: PS. Note the 4 x Parallella Expansion Connectors (PEC) on the bottom of the board, illustrated on page 19 of the manual and documented on page 26. They look very flexible for projects…
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    morgaine over 12 years ago in reply to Former Member +1
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  • morgaine
    morgaine over 11 years ago

    Although Adapteva are still fulfilling their Kickstarter committment, their shop is already open for preorders of the 16-core Epiphany board for November delivery.  Three options appear to be available:

     

     

    Board Model
    GPIOXilinx Device
    Price
    Parallella-16No GPIOZynq-7010$99
    Parallella-16With GPIOZynq-7010$119
    Parallella-16With GPIOZynq-7020$199

     

     

    If "No GPIO" means none, zero, zilch, that doesn't appear very enticing, I must say.  If this describes the situation accurately, the range of application of the basic board will be a lot narrower than expected.  And if the Zynq-7020-based Parallella-16 costs $199, then the price of the Parallella-64 is probably going to be very unfriendly.

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    morgaine over 11 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Does anyone have a ballpark price for the Xilinx XC7Z010 or XC7Z020-1CLG400C?

     

    I ask because if the price difference between the Zynq 7010 and 7020 versions of Parallella-16 is $80, then it's highly likely that the cost of the 7010 is a large part of the BOM cost of the entire board.

     

    Combining the gigabit Ethernet which is not a low-cost option with the (probable) high price of the 7010 device, this suggests that the Epiphany-16 chip itself is not very expensive because somehow it all has to add up to $99.  Since the board is open hardware, this in turn suggests that far cheaper Epiphany-powered boards could be created by open hardware enthusiasts by replacing the extortionate Xilinx hardware with something else.

     

    If as seems likely, the Epiphany-16 really is inexpensive, 4 of them on a board fronted by a cheap TI or Allwinner ARM SoC and interfaced through low-end programmable logic sounds a lot more appealing than multiple hundreds of dollars for a Parallella-64 which isn't yet in development anyway.

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    morgaine over 11 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Does anyone have a ballpark price for the Xilinx XC7Z010 or XC7Z020-1CLG400C?

     

    I ask because if the price difference between the Zynq 7010 and 7020 versions of Parallella-16 is $80, then it's highly likely that the cost of the 7010 is a large part of the BOM cost of the entire board.

     

    Combining the gigabit Ethernet which is not a low-cost option with the (probable) high price of the 7010 device, this suggests that the Epiphany-16 chip itself is not very expensive because somehow it all has to add up to $99.  Since the board is open hardware, this in turn suggests that far cheaper Epiphany-powered boards could be created by open hardware enthusiasts by replacing the extortionate Xilinx hardware with something else.

     

    If as seems likely, the Epiphany-16 really is inexpensive, 4 of them on a board fronted by a cheap TI or Allwinner ARM SoC and interfaced through low-end programmable logic sounds a lot more appealing than multiple hundreds of dollars for a Parallella-64 which isn't yet in development anyway.

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    johnbeetem over 11 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Morgaine Dinova wrote:

     

    Does anyone have a ballpark price for the Xilinx XC7Z010 or XC7Z020-1CLG400C?

     

    I ask because if the price difference between the Zynq 7010 and 7020 versions of Parallella-16 is $80, then it's highly likely that the cost of the 7010 is a large part of the BOM cost of the entire board.

    At Avnet.com, which is where I usually price Xilinx, the XC7Z010-1CLG400C is US$53, quantity 100.  The XC7Z020-1CLG400C is US$108.  So it's about US$55 difference.  Remember that the 7020 Parallella includes the GPIO connectors.

     

    The Parallella pricing is for "preorder", so may go up in November.  The original Xilinx marketing materials for Zynq talked about US$15 chips, but that's probably a target, with absurd quantities.

     

    I'm sure Adapteva will happily sell Epiphany chips to whoever wants to buy them.

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    morgaine over 11 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

    John Beetem wrote:

     

    At Avnet.com, which is where I usually price Xilinx, the XC7Z010-1CLG400C is US$53, quantity 100.  The XC7Z020-1CLG400C is US$108.  So it's about US$55 difference.

     

    Very interesting!

     

    It was only a rather unsafe inference that the 7010 was a large part of the cost, but it seems that I guessed right, or at least not entirely wrong.  It seems then that the Epiphany-16 costs comparatively little, and most of the $99 price of Parallella is going to feed poor starving Xilinx.

     

    Since it's open hardware, alternative designs without the Xilinx tax beckon.

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