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e14 Contributor over 14 years ago

I have two problems that I need to solve, both involving high-current

circuits:

 

First, I'm going to be laying down some FETs in SO-8 packages, and I want

a good solid connection from the four drain pins to a surrounding

polygon, both for current flow and to provide a thermal path for heat

sinking.  For the same part I want the same solid connection to the

source pins, although I don't need a polygon.  Connections that allow

good wide traces (up to 200 mils would be nice) without stomping on the

gate connection would be nice.

 

Second, I'll be putting in some current sense resistors.  While I'm going

cheap and using 2-terminal resistors, I'd like to make a pseudo 4-

terminal device by laying the part out with four pads, but then

connecting pairs of pads with a polygon or some such so that it looks and

solders like a regular resistor, but so that I can have my nice high-

current connections going to it with honkin' big traces, and still have

some thin traces coming off of the pads -- independent of the big traces

-- in a "pseudo Kelvin" connection.

 

Has anyone solved this problem before?  Got any suggestions on how to

proceed?

 

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My liberal friends think I'm a conservative kook.

My conservative friends think I'm a liberal kook.

Why am I not happy that they have found common ground?

 

Tim Wescott, Communications, Control, Circuits & Software

http://www.wescottdesign.com

 

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    e14 Contributor over 14 years ago

    Tim Wescott wrote:

    I have two problems that I need to solve, both involving high-current

    circuits:

     

    First, I'm going to be laying down some FETs in SO-8 packages, and I

    want a good solid connection from the four drain pins to a surrounding

    polygon, both for current flow and to provide a thermal path for heat

    sinking.  For the same part I want the same solid connection to the

    source pins, although I don't need a polygon.  Connections that allow

    good wide traces (up to 200 mils would be nice) without stomping on

    the gate connection would be nice.

     

    Second, I'll be putting in some current sense resistors.  While I'm

    going cheap and using 2-terminal resistors, I'd like to make a pseudo

    4- terminal device by laying the part out with four pads, but then

    connecting pairs of pads with a polygon or some such so that it looks

    and solders like a regular resistor, but so that I can have my nice

    high- current connections going to it with honkin' big traces, and

    still have some thin traces coming off of the pads -- independent of

    the big traces -- in a "pseudo Kelvin" connection.

     

    Has anyone solved this problem before?  Got any suggestions on how to

    proceed?

     

    Hi Tim

     

    Mock up an image of what you are attempting. That would make a potentially

    long reply more targetted.

     

    Warren

     

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    e14 Contributor over 14 years ago

    Tim Wescott wrote:

    I have two problems that I need to solve, both involving high-current

    circuits:

     

    First, I'm going to be laying down some FETs in SO-8 packages, and I

    want a good solid connection from the four drain pins to a surrounding

    polygon, both for current flow and to provide a thermal path for heat

    sinking.  For the same part I want the same solid connection to the

    source pins, although I don't need a polygon.  Connections that allow

    good wide traces (up to 200 mils would be nice) without stomping on

    the gate connection would be nice.

     

    Second, I'll be putting in some current sense resistors.  While I'm

    going cheap and using 2-terminal resistors, I'd like to make a pseudo

    4- terminal device by laying the part out with four pads, but then

    connecting pairs of pads with a polygon or some such so that it looks

    and solders like a regular resistor, but so that I can have my nice

    high- current connections going to it with honkin' big traces, and

    still have some thin traces coming off of the pads -- independent of

    the big traces -- in a "pseudo Kelvin" connection.

     

    Has anyone solved this problem before?  Got any suggestions on how to

    proceed?

     

    Hi Tim

     

    Mock up an image of what you are attempting. That would make a potentially

    long reply more targetted.

     

    Warren

     

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    Viewed / responded via the newsgroup at

    news.cadsoft.de

     

     

     

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    e14 Contributor over 14 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 11:01:29 +1300, Warren Brayshaw wrote:

     

    Tim

    See this document

    http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1154.pdf

     

    Do you want to achieve the land pattens they have for their SO8 Fig 4

     

    Pretty much, yes.

     

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    http://www.wescottdesign.com

     

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    e14 Contributor over 14 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Tim

    See this document

    http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-1154.pdf

     

    Do you want to achieve the land pattens they have for their SO8

    Fig 4

     

    Warren

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    news.cadsoft.de

     

     

     

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    e14 Contributor over 14 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 07:56:59 +1300, Warren Brayshaw wrote:

     

    Tim Wescott wrote:

    >> I have two problems that I need to solve, both involving high-current

    >> circuits:

    >>

    >> First, I'm going to be laying down some FETs in SO-8 packages, and I

    >> want a good solid connection from the four drain pins to a surrounding

    >> polygon, both for current flow and to provide a thermal path for heat

    >> sinking.  For the same part I want the same solid connection to the

    >> source pins, although I don't need a polygon.  Connections that allow

    >> good wide traces (up to 200 mils would be nice) without stomping on the

    >> gate connection would be nice.

    >>

    >> Second, I'll be putting in some current sense resistors.  While I'm

    >> going cheap and using 2-terminal resistors, I'd like to make a pseudo

    >> 4- terminal device by laying the part out with four pads, but then

    >> connecting pairs of pads with a polygon or some such so that it looks

    >> and solders like a regular resistor, but so that I can have my nice

    >> high- current connections going to it with honkin' big traces, and

    >> still have some thin traces coming off of the pads -- independent of

    >> the big traces -- in a "pseudo Kelvin" connection.

    >>

    >> Has anyone solved this problem before?  Got any suggestions on how to

    >> proceed?

     

    Hi Tim

     

    Mock up an image of what you are attempting. That would make a

    potentially long reply more targetted.

     

    Warren

     

    SO-8 case (view in fixed-width):

     

       _________

      /         \________

     

    thermal  ________ thick drain trace to wherever

     

    pad

     

      \-|-|-|-|-/

       .-------.

      

    chip

       '-------'

      /-|-|-|.|

     

    \_____ thin gate trace

      \__   _/

     

        

          thick source trace to wherever

     

    R2512 case:

     

                     _____            _____

                    /     \          /     \

                ____|   .----


    .   |______

                       

    part

    thick trace to wherever

    thick trace ____

    ______

    to wherever

    '----


    '

                    \_____/\        /\_____/

                           

                           

                          thin traces to

                          voltage amplifier

     

     

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    My conservative friends think I'm a liberal kook.

    Why am I not happy that they have found common ground?

     

    Tim Wescott, Communications, Control, Circuits & Software

    http://www.wescottdesign.com

     

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