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e14 Contributor
e14 Contributor over 13 years ago

There are times when it would be very handy to be able to rotate the

view of a PCB layout or schematic. I don't mean by changing the layout

or schematic itself, but rotate how the layout or schematic is VIEWED.

 

It'd also be handy to be able to flip a PCB over so you're viewing it

from the bottom, rather than the top.

 

This is nothing more than coordinate translation when drawing the screen

and interpreting click locations. It wouldn't change anything stored in

the schematic or board file, so the effects in the code should be

relatively localized.

 

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago

    Reece R. Pollack schrieb:

     

    There are times when it would be very handy to be able to rotate the

    view of a PCB layout or schematic. I don't mean by changing the layout

    or schematic itself, but rotate how the layout or schematic is VIEWED.

     

    It'd also be handy to be able to flip a PCB over so you're viewing it

    from the bottom, rather than the top.

     

    This is nothing more than coordinate translation when drawing the screen

    and interpreting click locations. It wouldn't change anything stored in

    the schematic or board file, so the effects in the code should be

    relatively localized.

     

    Seemingly you don't know how often (and for how long) this has been

    requested before - unfortunately without responses so far. image

     

    Tilmann

     

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

     

    Seemingly you don't know how often (and for how long) this has been

    requested before - unfortunately without responses so far. image

     

    Tilmann

     

     

    So true. Still want it...

     

    Markus

     

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Am 27.08.2012 08:58, schrieb Markus Rudolf:

    >> Seemingly you don't know how often (and for how long) this has been

    >> requested before - unfortunately without responses so far. image

    >> Tilmann

    So true. Still want it...

     

    Me too. Possibly easy to implement - wondering why it was ignored for so

    long....

     

    Stefan

     

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    On 8/28/2012 8:31 PM, Andrew Sterian wrote:

     

    Jorge,

     

    The survey is a good start. But finding the right answers and the right

    questions is hard. The right answer to support calls that ask when EAGLE

    will be available for Android is "When Android runs on computers with

    enough control and display capability to make it possible to operate a

    complicated CAD program, and also has enough market share of deployed

    operating systems to make it worth the development".

     

    So...not yet.

     

    In other words, the customer is not always right, and the smart

    companies know when to say no to them.

     

    Very clever response image I don't think I could get away with it, but it

    may serve me some day. We're not saying yes to anything yet, that's not

    my responsibility, I'm just trying to gather feedback.

    >> It doesn't make any sense to me, but I put it on there. If it's truly as

    >> useless as we all think it is then that will reflect in a low number of

    >> votes for that feature.

     

    The people that make support calls and ask for Android support aren't

    your customers. The people on this newsgroup are. Create a survey based

    upon what we've been asking for!

     

    >> On the flip side(pun intended)I can't hope to cover every possible

    >> feature request from thousands of users and that's why the comment

    >> section is there. I go through all of the comments so anything I left

    >> out of the main selection that is important will pop up there.

     

    A worthy effort, but market research is hard. But we're patient image

     

    Market research is not fun, as an engineer I'm not really into the whole

    sales and marketing world, however I have a deep respect for those who

    do it and do it well. Hopefully I'll get better, I'm much happier with

    the response this time around, sifting through all of the comments will

    probably be tedious but I think that's were I'll find the fodder for a

    future survey.

     

    Thanks for the input Andrew.

     

    Best Regards,

    Jorge Garcia

     

     

     

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    On 8/28/12 6:23 PM, Jorge Garcia wrote:

    As the maker of the survey, I think I should chime in on this. The first

    survey I did received too many other(they didn't select one of the

    provided responses) responses so I tried to cover more features. The

    EAGLE for smartphones and tablets is there because believe it or not I

    do get support calls with people asking when EAGLE will be available for

    Android.

     

    Jorge,

     

    The survey is a good start. But finding the right answers and the right

    questions is hard. The right answer to support calls that ask when EAGLE

    will be available for Android is "When Android runs on computers with

    enough control and display capability to make it possible to operate a

    complicated CAD program, and also has enough market share of deployed

    operating systems to make it worth the development".

     

    So...not yet.

     

    In other words, the customer is not always right, and the smart

    companies know when to say no to them.

     

    It doesn't make any sense to me, but I put it on there. If it's truly as

    useless as we all think it is then that will reflect in a low number of

    votes for that feature.

     

    The people that make support calls and ask for Android support aren't

    your customers. The people on this newsgroup are. Create a survey based

    upon what we've been asking for!

     

    On the flip side(pun intended)I can't hope to cover every possible

    feature request from thousands of users and that's why the comment

    section is there. I go through all of the comments so anything I left

    out of the main selection that is important will pop up there.

     

    A worthy effort, but market research is hard. But we're patient image

     

     

    hth,

    Jorge Garcia

     

     

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to CSWalt

    On 8/28/2012 5:41 AM, Walter Spermann wrote:

    Hi,

    On 08/27/12 12:50, Richard Herman wrote:

    >> Op Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:28:19 +0200 schreef Markus Rudolf

     

    >> Richard

    the point is actually "EAGLE for Tablet or Smartphones" and we primariliy think of tablets.

    Is smartphones really an option ? Can you imagine doing PCB-design on such a small display,

    only with touchscreen ?

     

    Walter Spermann

     

     

    Hi Guys,

     

    As the maker of the survey, I think I should chime in on this. The first

    survey I did received too many other(they didn't select one of the

    provided responses) responses so I tried to cover more features. The

    EAGLE for smartphones and tablets is there because believe it or not I

    do get support calls with people asking when EAGLE will be available for

    Android.

     

    It doesn't make any sense to me, but I put it on there. If it's truly as

    useless as we all think it is then that will reflect in a low number of

    votes for that feature.

     

    On the flip side(pun intended)I can't hope to cover every possible

    feature request from thousands of users and that's why the comment

    section is there. I go through all of the comments so anything I left

    out of the main selection that is important will pop up there.

     

    hth,

    Jorge Garcia

     

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Op Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:54:59 +0200 schreef Andreas Weidner 

    <andreas.weidner@aei.mpg.de>:

     

    Am 28.08.2012 11:41, schrieb Walter Spermann:

    >> the point is actually "EAGLE for Tablet or Smartphones" and we 

    >> primariliy think of tablets.

    >> Is smartphones really an option ? Can you imagine doing PCB-design on 

    >> such a small display,

    >> only with touchscreen ?

     

    I'm 100% sure that NOBODY wants to use EAGLE on a system without mouse 

    or other PRECISE pointing device. Perhaps for LOOKING at files, but 

    quite definitely NOT for DOING things.

     

    Andreas Weidner

     

     

    Exactly, even looking at files on a standard 10" tablet screen, doesn't 

    really appeal to me.

    I would move this to the bottom of the "to-do" list. But to each his own.

     

     

    Richard

     

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Op Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:54:59 +0200 schreef Andreas Weidner 

    <andreas.weidner@aei.mpg.de>:

     

    Am 28.08.2012 11:41, schrieb Walter Spermann:

    >> the point is actually "EAGLE for Tablet or Smartphones" and we 

    >> primariliy think of tablets.

    >> Is smartphones really an option ? Can you imagine doing PCB-design on 

    >> such a small display,

    >> only with touchscreen ?

     

    I'm 100% sure that NOBODY wants to use EAGLE on a system without mouse 

    or other PRECISE pointing device. Perhaps for LOOKING at files, but 

    quite definitely NOT for DOING things.

     

    Andreas Weidner

     

     

    Exactly, even looking at files on a standard 10" tablet screen, doesn't 

    really appeal to me.

    I would move this to the bottom of the "to-do" list. But to each his own.

     

     

    Richard

     

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