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Hi

 

It would be useful to group some Parts in SCH and in BRD permanently (lock/unlock function) to modify (move, mirror, etc) them together. For example a Diode together with a Heat sink, a LED together with a light guide. This behavior should be stored in the XML files too to be permanent.

 

Cheers

Martin

  • 0 in reply to clem57

    Hi

     

    To do it with an ULP would not work satisfactorily because it could not be integrated deeply in the editor. Storing the groups permanently in the board/schematic file is not possible and storing in external file would be cumbersome.

     

    I would vote vor Guillaume and giorgiobiso specifications!

     

    additionally:

    the origin of the group could be selected out of the origins of the elements.

     

     

     

    Martin

  • 0 in reply to giorgiobiso

    Hi,

    - adding / removing any single element/object/component to/from a permanent group with a simple click: too many times I spent costly minutes in annoying selections with group polygon tool and/or hiding/showing layers to avoid useless or harmful selections.

    you're right, this would be great !

  • 0 in reply to kikoun

    I agree with your suggested specifications. I would also add to those:

    - adding / removing any single element/object/component to/from a permanent group with a simple click: too many times I spent costly minutes in annoying selections with group polygon tool and/or hiding/showing layers to avoid useless or harmful selections.

    - use the Group tool to lock / unLock more than a single element (I never figured out how to do this, if any similar function exists)

    - improving the whole grouping system shifting it to a more friendly way: selection with left click, multiple selection with polygon (rectangle, guys, rectangle! CorelDraw did this in 1990!), add to/ remove from a group with shift+left click on the object.

     

    Marginal note: I also posted some suggestions (perhaps not my best contribution to the Eagle world, but... hey, worth a try), but after three weeks I have received no reply, no comment, nothing. The suggestion newsgroup on CadSoft site looks unreachable (error 404). I think the big Eagle's users community could bring a huge amount of suggestions in order to transform Eagle in the best EDA software, but - I may be wrong - CadSoft seems to be deaf from that ear...

  • 0 in reply to clem57

    Martin Fürst idea is good and permanent grouping is a missing basic function. This function should at least have these specifications:

    - a group could hold any elements: part, wire, via, polygon ...

    - lock the relative position of all the elements of group;

    - the group absolute position should be lockable / un-lockable (like parts)

    - the group should be permanent (store in to the brd/sch file)  (@ Clem : I don't see how you manage to to this last point with ulp....)

     

     

    Guillaume