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Eagle 7.6.0 constantly crashing - what to do?

tomstorey
tomstorey over 9 years ago

Hi everyone. I'm at a loss as to how to handle this situation.

 

I'd been using Eagle freeware for about a month flawlessly, but over the last two weeks or so I can barely do more than 5 minutes of work without it crashing and burning (well, not exactly burning.)

 

Simple things like zooming in and out of a schematic, scrolling in a schematic, or even clicking on a button on a toolbar will cause it to crash. So far I've spent most of my time in the schematic editor, so I'm not 100% sure if it also happens in the PCB editor.

 

I'm running it on a Mac (10.10), and I was also seeing the same problem with 7.5.0. Rather conveniently 7.6.0 came out not long after I started seeing the crashes with 7.5.0, so I upgraded hoping that might help, but alas, 7.6.0 had the exact same problem.

 

I tried restarting, I completely deleted the Eagle application folder and re-installed, but neither of those did anything to help. Can anyone suggest anything else?

 

The first tell-tale signs its about to happen are when I start to see graphical glitches, like that in the attached screenshot. Then, a couple of clicks later, boom - crash. I'm at the stage where I'm constantly saving my work in fear of losing it.

 

I'm really really liking Eagle, and Ive been considering purcashing a license, but if its going to behave like this, I dunno ....... image

 

Many thanks.

Tom

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  • autodeskguest
    autodeskguest over 9 years ago in reply to vintagesynthlab +1
    On 8/17/2016 1:08 PM, Eric Hold wrote: Hello! New post to this thread here: I, too am having the same crash symptom as all of you . Although I have learned from 25 years in the Electronics Hardware Industry…
  • mrmarple
    mrmarple over 9 years ago +1 suggested
    Eagle 7.6.0 running on a Hac (yes Hac) with OSX 10.10.5 Yosemite and two monitors is stable here, no unexpected crashes. I can crash it, I avoid the one situation that I know is a problem. Starting eagle…
  • vintagesynthlab
    vintagesynthlab over 9 years ago +1
    I found that Ken Tyler's suggestion (above) actually worked for me. While it is a "workaround" solution, I'm finding that after resizing both the schematic and PCB layout windows, I am usually able to…
  • clem57
    0 clem57 over 9 years ago

    This has happened to many others when you run out of memory. Try to close other windows and avoid operations like Ratnest over many connections.

    Clem

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  • tomstorey
    0 tomstorey over 9 years ago in reply to clem57

    Thanks Clem.

     

    Shame that it is unable to handle that a bit more gracefully. No other application that I'm running has such brutal behaviour.

     

    I do have a few tabs open in Chrome, which is notoriously memory hungry. I'll give it another reboot and try before re-opening Chrome.

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    0 tomstorey over 9 years ago in reply to clem57

    Sadly no, it wouldnt seem to be a memory availability issue. I have 16GB in my Mac, and using only 5-6GB after a reboot it still crashed. This time I was in the PCB editor and was trying to move a component, although I did start to see the graphical glitches in the schematic editor a few minutes prior. image

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    0 autodeskguest over 9 years ago

    Am 08.07.2016 um 00:13 schrieb Tom Storey:

    Hi everyone. I'm at a loss as to how to handle this situation.

     

    I'd been using Eagle freeware for about a month flawlessly, but over the last two weeks or so I can barely do more than 5 minutes of work without it crashing and burning (well, not exactly burning.)

     

    Simple things like zooming in and out of a schematic, scrolling in a schematic, or even clicking on a button on a toolbar will cause it to crash.

     

    I'm running it on a Mac (10.10), and I was also seeing the same problem with 7.5.0. Rather conveniently 7.6.0 came out not long after I started seeing the crashes with 7.5.0, so I upgraded hoping that might help, but alas, 7.6.0 had the exact same problem.

     

    I tried restarting, I completely deleted the Eagle application folder and re-installed, but neither of those did anything to help. Can anyone suggest anything else?

     

    The first tell-tale signs its about to happen are when I start to see graphical glitches, like that in the attached screenshot. Then, a couple of clicks later, boom - crash. I'm at the stage where I'm constantly saving my work in fear of losing it.

     

    I'm really really liking Eagle, and Ive been considering purcashing a license, but if its going to behave like this, I dunno ....... image

     

    Many thanks.

    Tom

     

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    Were there any changes to the system recently? You wrote that EAGLE

    worked fine before....

     

     

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  • tomstorey
    0 tomstorey over 9 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    Hi Richard.

     

    Nothing that comes to mind (isn't that the oldest excuse in the book....) Eagle should be the most recent app that I installed.

     

    edit: Probably MPLAB v3.35 has been installed since then, actually. But that would definitely be it.

     

    This morning I updated to Mac OS 10.10.5, but still seeing the same issue.

     

    Tom

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  • doubletop
    0 doubletop over 9 years ago

    Me too

     

    A new Dell Inspiron 13 7000, I7 CPU and 8Gb memory. One week old with only Windows 10, Office Home, Firefox, Thunderbird Eagle 7.6.0 and MPLAB X 3.3.5. That’s it.

     

    Eagle in free mode and a simple circuit 2 x  INA126 and a PIC 16F1847 with a handful of discrete components and connectors. Inconsistencies get reported when I select Autorouter and after checking and fixing all inconsistences in ERC I still get the report. If I ignore the inconsistencies the pop up keeps re-appearing and then the system crashes. I've been doing a regular save all" and still the inconsistencies start.

     

    So far I've made progress by deleting the .brd file and the re making it from the schematic and laying it out again. After a few modifications it starts the inconsistencies thing again and then crashes

     

     

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    0 doubletop over 9 years ago in reply to doubletop

    I just finished typing the last post and then tried this.

     

    After the crash there are two .lck lock files. Delete them and then restart the console. Open the schematic and save as a different file name. The .brd file opened as well and was also renamed. The Autorouter then worked properly.

     

    Beats me but I managed to move forwards

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    0 autodeskguest over 9 years ago in reply to doubletop

    Am 10.07.2016 um 11:44 schrieb doubletop:

    I just finished typing the last post and then tried this.

     

    After the crash there are two .lck lock files. Delete them and then restart the console. Open the schematic and save as a different file name. The .brd file opened as well and was also renamed. The Autorouter then worked properly.

     

    Beats me but I managed to move forwards

     

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    Hmmm,

     

    try to switch off the file locking in the EAGLE Control Panel, in the

    menu Options, Backup/Locking. Does it help?

     

     

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    Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Best regards

    Richard Hammerl

      CadSoft Support -- hotline@cadsoft.de

      FAQ: http://www.cadsoft.de/training/faq/

     

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  • tomstorey
    0 tomstorey over 9 years ago

    I really dont want to jinx this, but for the last 2 days Eagle has been running flawlessly again for me.

     

    Although its nice, its still somewhat of a worry - what was causing the crashes before, and will they come back, and if they do how long before they go away again? image

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    0 doubletop over 9 years ago in reply to tomstorey

    I saved the schematic as a new file and re-created the board. Did the ERC/DRC checks on both and fixed everything , no errors and announced that both drawings were consistent. Ran Autorouter and was told both were now inconsistent. back out of Autorouter checked again and both were consistent. back into Autorouter both inconsistent. The other thing was all the drop downs were greyed out. It was at this point I knew that selecting "do you want to run anyway" which will pop up a few times and if you keep saying yes Eagle will crash. However I then I noticed the check box, "do you want to continue with the previous run" I unselected it and the greyed out boxes were accessible again and the autorouter ran fine.

     

    I think that was probably it all along. I'll keep and eye out for it again. If the autorouter fails or is stopped for any reason uncheck that checkbox

     

    Pete

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