Eagle upgrade costs

Is there going to be a credit for those of us who have an older license when moving to the new subscription model?

Paul Ryan wrote on Sat, 11 February 2017 15:01

Is there going to be a credit for those of us who have an older license

when moving to the new subscription model?

 

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What license do you currently have? I believe there is currently a 50%

discount on 1 year subscriptions for existing v7 license holders.

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Rachael

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Hello,

Even with a 50% of reduction on 1 year subscription, it will be 'no thank for me'.

Sorry guys, but you when to far for me, an also for my boss...

I have my own private pro license (as hobbyist) and at work, I use the license of my company. I will not migrate to the V8 version and I think that my boss will probably to the same.

1.If you want to buy a car you don't go to a rent office.

I want to buy a license, no to rent it, and that is not negotiable. So if Eagle licenses are not for sale anymore, but only for renting, then I guess that I will simply don't go to the Eagle sales offices ! (simple!)

2. Until now I didn't use the autorouter, and so I never bought it. Now I will not have the choice any more, and so the price is absolutely not the same !

I dislike this way of forcing to buy something you don't want to, so I avoid those situations. Then I guess that, starting from now, I will avoid Eagle....

3.To force people to create an account and to connect to Autodesk server every 14 days... Woww That a real improvement ! That was the most critical problem of Eagle v7 !!!! lol

a- No one can force me to create a account if I don"t want to.

b- I don't want to give any single personal single data on me, on a account I don't want to create, account on a web site of a company I will not trust any more !

c- I use Eagle on a PC that is not and will not be connected on internet (for security issues) so... I'm screwed. At least I would understand an activation by internet, once during installation, but every 14 days: this a joke ?

4. Just a little thing, I'm concern about protecting software since I work in a company that provide software ! We use different ways of protecting our products (we develop our own USB protecting dongle, or we can propose the use of license server etc... )

But  we :

a- propose to our customer different solutions of protection (dongle, licensee server etc ..) and he could choose the one; we don't impose just one.

b- we never (and probably ever) don't use the rent only model. A license is for SALE and a the maintenance/support contract is a RENT. Both are separate things.

     WE NEVER IMPOSE THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT to a customer who buy a license !

     why ?

     By using the renting only model you just force your customers to have a maintenance contract, and worse, the licensee will perish at the end of the period !

I may be wrong but I think you just lose the trust between you and some of your customers (2 at least: me and my boss).

Believe me you don't have to impose a subscription. As I said, my company SELL licenses that will never expire. And we also propose a maintenance contract (with support, updates etc...) but only for customer who want it !

And guess what ?

In more than 95% of purchased licenses, customers also take out a maintenance contract !

Why ?

A - We listen to their needs, and don't sell what they don't need !

B - They have the feeling of not been attached, of having the choice.

C - TRUST

D - the quality, the performance etc...

...

Z - Certainly NOT because that we impose it !

So bye bye Eagle.

I think that I will continue for a while with the Eagle V7, then I will try other software.... But I will not continue to invest my time with Eagle....

Note that I did not said that I will change my decision if you change your policy, because I think I wouldn't. 

Simple because, I don't trust  Eagle anymore, so... I would certainly prefer to use my time to learn another software...

Sorry,

Guillaume Barrey

On 03/23/2017 02:45 PM, warrenbrayshaw wrote:

On 24/03/2017 6:40 a.m., Don Haselwood wrote:

John,

 

I'm trying to get my eagle version 4.13 running on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on

a 64b machine, but the window area with the schematic and board layout

is blank, no matter what I do.  I did get the transparency issue

resolved, but the inability to make anything appear in the work area

window remains.  It appears to be a Ubuntu 16 issue as I do have an

older machine running Ubuntu 14.04 and it is OK..  I wondered if you

had that problem, and if so, what you did to fix it.   (I've tried all

sorts of things I've found online having to do with the 32bit libs,

but no success.)

 

As far as upgrade goes--my paid version 4.13 is quite satisfactory for

what I do (retired, hobbyist).  It produces what I want for the boards

and the notion of no additional cost for eagle upgrades just doesn't

offer anything.  (In my experience, software upgrades offer the hope

of something better, but instead replace of old, known problems with

new problems yet to be discovered.)  Kicad is attractive, but I can

hit the right keys with my eagle 4.1 automatically without

looking/thinking so continuing with eagle 4.1 (and not a later

version!) is quite desirable.

 

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Hi Don

 

Start by downloading the last point version of Eagle V4 (4.16r2) as your

licence qualifies you for it.

 

ftp://ftp.cadsoft.de/eagle/program/4.16r2/

 

Then, I suspect there are some missing linux drivers that you will need

to locate. This has been a problem from time to time.

 

Others may be able to give you an exact answer.

 

Failing that search the forum. I suspect E14 is not the place to do

that. Search eagle central but let google do the heavy lifting when you

have multpile works you wish to search for. e.g

 

site:eaglecentral.ca  "linux drivers" "missing"

 

HTH

Warren

 

I am running on a recent version of linux mint with xfce. Also on 4.x. I

found the windows were transparent. I had to change the desktop setting

(window mangager) to not use compositing. This fixed the transparent

windows.

With compositing enabled.

Paul R. via newsgroup

On 24/03/2017 6:40 a.m., Don Haselwood wrote:

John,

 

I'm trying to get my eagle version 4.13 running on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on a 64b machine, but the window area with the schematic and board layout is blank, no matter what I do.  I did get the transparency issue resolved, but the inability to make anything appear in the work area window remains.  It appears to be a Ubuntu 16 issue as I do have an older machine running Ubuntu 14.04 and it is OK..  I wondered if you had that problem, and if so, what you did to fix it.   (I've tried all sorts of things I've found online having to do with the 32bit libs, but no success.)

 

As far as upgrade goes--my paid version 4.13 is quite satisfactory for what I do (retired, hobbyist).  It produces what I want for the boards and the notion of no additional cost for eagle upgrades just doesn't offer anything.  (In my experience, software upgrades offer the hope of something better, but instead replace of old, known problems with new problems yet to be discovered.)  Kicad is attractive, but I can hit the right keys with my eagle 4.1 automatically without looking/thinking so continuing with eagle 4.1 (and not a later version!) is quite desirable.

 

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Hi Don

Start by downloading the last point version of Eagle V4 (4.16r2) as your

licence qualifies you for it.

ftp://ftp.cadsoft.de/eagle/program/4.16r2/

Then, I suspect there are some missing linux drivers that you will need

to locate. This has been a problem from time to time.

Others may be able to give you an exact answer.

Failing that search the forum. I suspect E14 is not the place to do

that. Search eagle central but let google do the heavy lifting when you

have multpile works you wish to search for. e.g

site:eaglecentral.ca  "linux drivers" "missing"

HTH

Warren

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On 24/03/2017 6:40 a.m., Don Haselwood wrote:

John,

 

I'm trying to get my eagle version 4.13 running on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on a 64b machine, but the window area with the schematic and board layout is blank, no matter what I do.  I did get the transparency issue resolved, but the inability to make anything appear in the work area window remains.  It appears to be a Ubuntu 16 issue as I do have an older machine running Ubuntu 14.04 and it is OK..  I wondered if you had that problem, and if so, what you did to fix it.   (I've tried all sorts of things I've found online having to do with the 32bit libs, but no success.)

 

As far as upgrade goes--my paid version 4.13 is quite satisfactory for what I do (retired, hobbyist).  It produces what I want for the boards and the notion of no additional cost for eagle upgrades just doesn't offer anything.  (In my experience, software upgrades offer the hope of something better, but instead replace of old, known problems with new problems yet to be discovered.)  Kicad is attractive, but I can hit the right keys with my eagle 4.1 automatically without looking/thinking so continuing with eagle 4.1 (and not a later version!) is quite desirable.

 

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Hi Don

Start by downloading the last point version of Eagle V4 (4.16r2) as your

licence qualifies you for it.

ftp://ftp.cadsoft.de/eagle/program/4.16r2/

Then, I suspect there are some missing linux drivers that you will need

to locate. This has been a problem from time to time.

Others may be able to give you an exact answer.

Failing that search the forum. I suspect E14 is not the place to do

that. Search eagle central but let google do the heavy lifting when you

have multpile works you wish to search for. e.g

site:eaglecentral.ca  "linux drivers" "missing"

HTH

Warren

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John,

I'm trying to get my eagle version 4.13 running on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on a 64b machine, but the window area with the schematic and board layout is blank, no matter what I do.  I did get the transparency issue resolved, but the inability to make anything appear in the work area window remains.  It appears to be a Ubuntu 16 issue as I do have an older machine running Ubuntu 14.04 and it is OK..  I wondered if you had that problem, and if so, what you did to fix it.   (I've tried all sorts of things I've found online having to do with the 32bit libs, but no success.)

As far as upgrade goes--my paid version 4.13 is quite satisfactory for what I do (retired, hobbyist).  It produces what I want for the boards and the notion of no additional cost for eagle upgrades just doesn't offer anything.  (In my experience, software upgrades offer the hope of something better, but instead replace of old, known problems with new problems yet to be discovered.)  Kicad is attractive, but I can hit the right keys with my eagle 4.1 automatically without looking/thinking so continuing with eagle 4.1 (and not a later version!) is quite desirable.

Thank you!

I have V7.7, it works under Win7 and Win10, so I will follow you:

I will stay with EAGLE till it works, after that - switch to KiCAD.

      Thanks again. 

                   Sincerely yours,

                              Lev Freidin.

Thank you!

I have V7.7, it works under Win7 and Win10, so I will follow you:

I will stay with EAGLE till it works, after that - switch to KiCAD.

      Thanks again. 

                   Sincerely yours,

                              Lev Freidin.