ASCII export ALL pcb information

jgraverholt schrieb:

I see ulps for netlists, but our vendor wants a complete ASCII file  like a

PADS ASCII file that contains All the pcb information.  Is there a ulp or

anyway to create this file in Eagle 4.16?

I think there are ULPs for exporting complete designs into script files

(which are ASCII) in the download section of the CadSoft website.

Tilmann

I see ulps for netlists, but our vendor wants a complete ASCII file  like a

PADS ASCII file that contains All the pcb information.  Is there a ulp or

anyway to create this file in Eagle 4.16?

Hello,

There are some ULP's for various export/import in the CadSoft download

directory.  You might find something there.

We sell a tool (with support) that can export PADS ascii files from an EAGLE

schematic (for use with an external layout tool) and import PADS ascii files

into an EAGLE board file (for using an external schematic tool).

These tools just deal with netlists.  It's not an import/export of a design.

But if that is what you want then go to

http://www.eaglecentral.ca/purchase/eet_pads.php?product=1&d=1

Cheers,

James.

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I've been through all of the .ulp files online and found nothing to export a

complete ASCII file.  I can't believe there isn't anything.  Most vendors we

work with need this.

"James Morrison" <james@eaglecentral.ca> wrote in message

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I see ulps for netlists, but our vendor wants a complete ASCII file  like

a

PADS ASCII file that contains All the pcb information.  Is there a ulp or

anyway to create this file in Eagle 4.16?

 

Hello,

 

There are some ULP's for various export/import in the CadSoft download

directory.  You might find something there.

 

We sell a tool (with support) that can export PADS ascii files from an

EAGLE

schematic (for use with an external layout tool) and import PADS ascii

files

into an EAGLE board file (for using an external schematic tool).

 

These tools just deal with netlists.  It's not an import/export of a

design.

But if that is what you want then go to

 

http://www.eaglecentral.ca/purchase/eet_pads.php?product=1&d=1

 

Cheers,

 

James.

 

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James Morrison ~~~ Stratford Digital

 

email: sales2009@eaglecentral.ca

fax: 888.701.8097

web: http://www.eaglecentral.ca

 

Online EAGLE Dealer for US and Canada

EAGLE Design Experts

EAGLE Enterprise Toolkit

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jgraverholt schrieb:

I've been through all of the .ulp files online and found nothing to export a

complete ASCII file.  I can't believe there isn't anything.  Most vendors we

work with need this.

I fear we are talking about completely different things.

No board house needs any ASCII file containing the complete design.

They only need the complete gerber files for PCB production. These are

generated by the CAM processor.

No parts vendor needs any ASCII file containing the complete design.

They only need a complete part list. You can generate them with the

EXPORT command, or (more comfortably) with some ULPs.

No assembly house needs any ASCII file containing the complete design.

They only need the parts plan (silk screen) and the part list, plus

eventually some additional detail information that is not contained in

the design anyway. You can even generate complete pick&place programs

for automated SMD assembly by ULP.

No customer of a design contract needs any ASCII file containing the

complete design. They are lucky with the original EAGLE design files.

So can you explain for what you need a "complete ASCII file", and what

exactly you expect from this file?

BTW, please don't top-post. Please read and understand

<http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html>.

Tilmann

"Tilmann Reh" <user@domain.invalid> wrote in message

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jgraverholt schrieb:

 

I've been through all of the .ulp files online and found nothing to

export a

complete ASCII file.  I can't believe there isn't anything.  Most vendors

we

work with need this.

 

I fear we are talking about completely different things.

 

No board house needs any ASCII file containing the complete design.

They only need the complete gerber files for PCB production. These are

generated by the CAM processor.

 

No parts vendor needs any ASCII file containing the complete design.

They only need a complete part list. You can generate them with the

EXPORT command, or (more comfortably) with some ULPs.

 

No assembly house needs any ASCII file containing the complete design.

They only need the parts plan (silk screen) and the part list, plus

eventually some additional detail information that is not contained in

the design anyway. You can even generate complete pick&place programs

for automated SMD assembly by ULP.

 

No customer of a design contract needs any ASCII file containing the

complete design. They are lucky with the original EAGLE design files.

 

So can you explain for what you need a "complete ASCII file", and what

exactly you expect from this file?

 

BTW, please don't top-post. Please read and understand

<http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html>.

 

Tilmann

We use contract manufacturers that do the entire process from making the pcb

to testing the final product.  Here is text from an email requesting the

ASCII file.

"Besides being used for machine programming and for generating the images

for our Manufacturing Process Instructions, the CAD data is also important

to me for extracting component information for the labor quote.

Per your e-mail sent on 11/11/08 that there was no ASCII file, so I went

ahead and manually Digitized the board using the gerber files that were

sent.

The ASCII CAD file is basically the text file output from your CAD system of

the board design.  This file allows us to quickly generate machine programs

and work instructions using our CAM software.  If we don't have the ASCII

CAD file, then we have to use your Gerber files to manually "digitize the

board" within our software to achieve the same thing the CAD file does, but

it adds 4-8hrs to our process and lends itself to error since it is a manual

process.  This is why the ASCII CAD file is preferred.

I've attached instructions on how to output the ASCII CAD file from multiple

CAD systems.  Find the CAD system that you guys use in the document attached

and then follow the instructions to output the ASCII CAD file."

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The attached instructions did not list EaglePCB.  I think what they are

used to dealing with is the ASCII output from PADS and Protel inwhich you

can select the entire design to export.  It would be like taking the Eagle

.brd file and converting it to text.

I can email you a sample file so you can see what data is included if you

wish.  I would do that out of the news groups of course.

Thanks,

Jim

jgraverholt schrieb:

We use contract manufacturers that do the entire process from making the pcb

to testing the final product.  Here is text from an email requesting the

ASCII file.

 

"Besides being used for machine programming and for generating the images

for our Manufacturing Process Instructions, the CAD data is also important

to me for extracting component information for the labor quote.

Per your e-mail sent on 11/11/08 that there was no ASCII file, so I went

ahead and manually Digitized the board using the gerber files that were

sent.

So obviously they need the parts and their coordinates. Use EXPORT

PARTLIST from the board editor window and ask them if that file is

sufficient for them.

You can also use one of the pick&place ULPs that generate several

commonly used formats for assembly machines (but only for the SMD

parts). Perhaps you use them all and provide all resulting files - and

let your manufacturer choose the file he likes the most (i.e. which is

easiest to use for him). If he still complains, let us know about the

details.

Let me note that the nomenclature of that contract manufacturer is

somewhat strange and misleading. There is no common meaning of "ASCII

CAD file".

I can email you a sample file so you can see what data is included if you

wish.  I would do that out of the news groups of course.

You can send me a file to my reply-to address if you want me to have a

look at it. Did (or: can) the manufacturer also provide a sample file of

the kind he is expecting from you?

Tilmann

"jgraverholt" <jgraverholt@huntron.com> wrote in message

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I see ulps for netlists, but our vendor wants a complete ASCII file  like a

PADS ASCII file that contains All the pcb information.  Is there a ulp or

anyway to create this file in Eagle 4.16?

I have used the Export_ProtelPCB.ulp for this purpose with some success. Our

board assembler wants a .pcb file for doing manufacturing analysis before

running the job.

Doyle