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BC184L transistor component

Andy Betts
Andy Betts over 9 years ago

I'm taking my first baby steps into circuit design, with the intention of making guitar effect pedals that are as close to the original vintage spec as possible... Here's my issue.

 

I'm laying out the schematic for the circuit, and went to the library to pull out a BC184L transistor and there wasn't one. The closest to it I could find was a BC109, however I would really like the 184L as that's the correct one for the circuit. can I just create a new one in the library from an existing component that's virtually the same, or is there a resource for obtaining the correct library file, or am I missing something blatantly obvious as a newbie.

 

 

Thanks for your patience in advance...

 

Andy

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  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 9 years ago in reply to Andy Betts +1
    Overdrive? That's when the signal slams into BOTH rails, is it? Does that mean that the track title "Interstellar Overdrive" was a guitarist's joke? The values on your schematic look reasonably sensible…
  • Andy Betts
    Andy Betts over 9 years ago in reply to shabaz +1
    Thanks for your help guys... This is new territory to me, and don't want to spend too much time designing parts in Eagle, although I suspect that isn't going to happen. I'm currently copying and tweaking…
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  • Andy Betts
    Andy Betts over 9 years ago

    Hi guys.

     

    Thank you all for your help, and comments. I've checked the schematic and that says that the 3 trannies in the circuit are BC169C, BC184C & BC109. However, I'm also working from an original photograph of the circuit and the trannies are ALL BC184L so I'll be going with that. The pin outs are the same on all those transistors I believe so i'll use the 109 from the library and rename it... Simples!! :-)

     

    For your interest, I'm recreating a Colorsound Power Boost version 2. The board will be the same, with board mounted pots, I just need to lay the circuit out in eagle and get the design as close to the trace as possible. I could manually trace the layout from the photo below, but it's a bit messy, and using Eagle to re-draw the circuit and create the board will ensure I don't make any ***-ups along the way as regards the circuit. I'm also sourcing (where practical) original components, so I've just received a delivery of NOS Mullard tropical fish caps the same as in the photo. all resistors are the same, I have however had to compromise with the axial electrolytic caps... I've gone with Vishay caps, a good brand and the same as what's used in the current power boost reissues.

     

    The photos below show a version 1 power boost, which had an extra 10k resistor which the version 2 didn't have. Apart from that they were identical.

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    autodeskguest over 9 years ago in reply to Andy Betts

    Andy Betts wrote:

    Thank you all for your help, and comments. I've checked the schematic

    and that says that the 3 trannies in the circuit are BC169C, BC184C &

    BC109. However, I'm also working from an original photograph of the

    circuit and the trannies are ALL BC184L so I'll be going with that.

    The pin outs are the same on all those transistors I believe so i'll

    use the 109 from the library and rename it... Simples!! image

     

    BC184C and L differ in pin mapping only. If you are creating a new

    layout anyway, I'd go with the version the makes for the easier

    routing.

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    Lorenz

     

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    autodeskguest over 9 years ago in reply to Andy Betts

    Andy Betts wrote:

    Thank you all for your help, and comments. I've checked the schematic

    and that says that the 3 trannies in the circuit are BC169C, BC184C &

    BC109. However, I'm also working from an original photograph of the

    circuit and the trannies are ALL BC184L so I'll be going with that.

    The pin outs are the same on all those transistors I believe so i'll

    use the 109 from the library and rename it... Simples!! image

     

    BC184C and L differ in pin mapping only. If you are creating a new

    layout anyway, I'd go with the version the makes for the easier

    routing.

    --

    Lorenz

     

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