Ship dates?

I ordered mine from Farnell on March 4th. Although, I think I had registered an interest before that. Anyway, when I placed the order, it said it would ship in May, but now just checking today, it says the expected ship date is April 3rd. I'm in the US.

I live in the Southeast USA, ordered from Newark / Element14 on March 3rd, after I recieved an email update from Newark / Element14 that contained a link that said "Buy Now"

The ship date was at one time mid April, then it was bumped to May around the time of the botched Ethernet news, now the estimated shipping time shows as April 3rd.

I talked to a tech today via live chat - they said that to the best of their knowledge that's when my order would ship (April 3rd). The said the only holdup that they knew of was the Ethernet problem. They did not have any additional information but were very polite.

Hope this provides some insight and I'm patiently hoping that it really does ship within the next week. Will keep you all posted.

Josh,

It is extremely unlikely that your unit will ship soon. 

Apparently, the first batch was 1950 units, not 10000,

to be divided between Farnell and RS, and it was sold out

on the first day within minutes.  This batch apparently arrived

in the UK within the last 24 hours or so, but it is unknown

whether or when it will be distributed to customers, due to the RF

testing concern.  It may be held until certification is complete,

or if that looks like it will take a long time or be infeasible,

perhaps it may be diverted to "development partners".

It is not known how long it may take for the next batch.

Production of the next batch may be on hold pending

RF certification.

The foundation says they rely on the distributor reps at

the factory to know what's going on, and the distributors

say they rely on the foundation to know what's going on.

Make of that what you like.

coder27 writes:

> The foundation says they rely on the distributor reps at the factory to know

> what's going on, and the distributors say they rely on the foundation to know

> what's going on.  Make of that what you like.

I know what to make of it, but the words to describe it accurately cannot be used in polite company.

I actually have a fair bit of sympathy for RS and Farnell/Element14 on this issue, for four reasons:

• Companies are traditionally closed and secretive, and they don't pretend to be otherwise.
• Companies very rarely see themselves as part of a community, and don't pretend it's otherwise.
• Because they're not equal partners in a community, companies rarely feel obliged to communicate.
• Companies are almost always split functionally, which results in left-hand/right-hand problems.

So, what we're seeing is really fairly normal for technology companies.  Exceptions are quite rare.

In contrast, the Foundation has always portrayed itself as a community member, open and honest about what it does, and collaborating fully with us through open and honest communications.  HAHAHAHAHA.

This utter fiction would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

Morgaine.

Eh, they're doing it for poor kids, they don't profit much from it, they're a charity, add some other fanboysm here... What I think is that they just sold thet RPi manufacture to Farnell and RS, before it was actually a finished product. Those 2 are just doing things right, like I expected them to (compliance test for example), and ppl are just misleaded by the Foundation/Fanboy vapourtalk. Btw, Farnell is providing a grid of prices, fixing it, actually doing something, but the Foundation still has on their main web the price of the model A, 25usd... very misleading. Oh, your 2 reason became 4! XD Still right, real world companies are like that.

Number fixed, thanks piovrauze.

Morgaine Dinova wrote:

 

 

I actually have a fair bit of sympathy for RS and Farnell/Element14 on this issue, for four reasons:

 

• Companies are traditionally closed and secretive, and they don't pretend to be otherwise.
• Companies very rarely see themselves as part of a community, and don't pretend it's otherwise.
• Because they're not equal partners in a community, companies rarely feel obliged to communicate.
• Companies are almost always split functionally, which results in left-hand/right-hand problems.

 

So, what we're seeing is really fairly normal for technology companies.  Exceptions are quite rare.

 

In contrast, the Foundation has always portrayed itself as a community member, open and honest about what it does, and collaborating fully with us through open and honest communications.  HAHAHAHAHA.

 

Morgaine.

Agree on both the points about RS/ Farnell and the foundation. The Foundation (or at least the moderators there) seem very much to want to portray themselves as saintly and push any queries onto Farnell and RS. The Tag line is still ' A Gnu/Linux for $25' - I know this is referring to the model 'A' but where has that gone in all is kerfuffle ? What about the buy one, give one option they were going on about ad infinitum? I get the feeling they are starting to move the goalposts on their own stated aims.

Being honest, I think Eben, Peter Lomas and the others closest to the foundation (as in those that have done the hard work) are still very much true to the stated aims and have a lot riding on this. However, the tone that the mods take on the foundation forum is starting to obscure this in my view?

Steve wrote:

> However, the tone that the mods take on the foundation forum is starting to obscure this in my view?

You mean the mods running the controlled-discussion police state, the ones applying moderation rules that cannot be discussed publicly, the ones that support everyone who praises the Foundation and are vehemently hostile to anyone pointing out shortcomings, or the ones who lock threads about the Raspberry Pi for being "off-topic"?

It's not being run as a balanced and even-handed community platform at the present time, and that makes me sad.

The Rpi admins seem completely unable or unwilling to distinguish between the very useful admin role of controlling spam and personal abuse, and the totally inappropriate censorship of courteous discussions of which they personally disapprove.  The concept of even-handedness and letting the community speak freely is completely foreign to them.  They lock threads and/or move them to Off Topic on a whim, often saying it's "To avoid repetition", but you never see them try to stop repetitious comments from fanbois, only from critics or from those who ask embarrassing questions.  They openly rejoice in their bias, and their actions raise the level of hostility in the forum instead of having a calming influence.

It's very unfortunate.  And sadly, it's tarnishing the reputation of the Foundation and of the lovely little board.

frankly, I have a gutfeeling that Foundation is not a Foundation at all, but just a marketing trick pulled by Broadcom. I can't prove it so it is just my opinion, but this opinion has been formed from the little bits of information that came from so called Foundation along the way.

Actually your gutfeeling is more like a shared-gutfeeling, as almost all pll I know (ones that actually informed about the RPi thing) have all said that. I share this opinion too, as does a 61 years old woman living here that said so like... istantly after hearing about the fact the BCxxxx was used on it and a "Foundation" man works for that company. Talk about life experience!

The thing I'm glad is that Farnell is letting us speak, and is actually doing something to go selling, since it's clear that's their interest, as a -company-, to do things right.

Oh, I don't work for them, just had good service from them here, hence happy.

Let's hope the shipment date is respected, all depends on compliance tests now.

Well we'll never know.  However, the facts aren't in dispute:

Raspberry Pi represents a *colossal* coup for Broadcom, millions of people hearing of the company name for the first time.  But even more importantly, a pearl beyond price: young hackers who eventually end up in industry get to know their devices, and that leads directly to future sales long after Raspberry Pi is dead and forgotten.

You couldn't buy that kind of exposure ... but with a good idea and manipulation of hype, you can certainly arrange for it.

That it's a long-term coup for Broadcom is certain, but if the board ends up in worldwide education, it'll be a colossal near-term sales coup as well, with hundreds of millions of BCM2835 devices sold.  (Roku 2 is said to have sold only 4 million or so.)  This isn't peanuts, nor charity.  It's lovely lovely profit for Broadcom.

All the other ARM licensees will be kicking themselves over Broadcom's sudden dominance of this space, and wondering how to face the future.  They'll have to try to follow suit, or else resign themselves to monopoly dominance in Edu.  It'll be a tough nut to crack though.  How do you manufacture this level of hype a second time?

Morgaine.

Well we'll never know.  However, the facts aren't in dispute:

Raspberry Pi represents a *colossal* coup for Broadcom, millions of people hearing of the company name for the first time.  But even more importantly, a pearl beyond price: young hackers who eventually end up in industry get to know their devices, and that leads directly to future sales long after Raspberry Pi is dead and forgotten.

You couldn't buy that kind of exposure ... but with a good idea and manipulation of hype, you can certainly arrange for it.

That it's a long-term coup for Broadcom is certain, but if the board ends up in worldwide education, it'll be a colossal near-term sales coup as well, with hundreds of millions of BCM2835 devices sold.  (Roku 2 is said to have sold only 4 million or so.)  This isn't peanuts, nor charity.  It's lovely lovely profit for Broadcom.

All the other ARM licensees will be kicking themselves over Broadcom's sudden dominance of this space, and wondering how to face the future.  They'll have to try to follow suit, or else resign themselves to monopoly dominance in Edu.  It'll be a tough nut to crack though.  How do you manufacture this level of hype a second time?

Morgaine.

the only problem I see with this hype, they hit the wrong audience - geeks, tinkerers and hackers have seen lots of vapourware in their time and either you hold on to your promises or you are bust.

I'm curious as to where everyone is getting their ship dates from.  I ordered from Newark Canada and I have only ever gotten one date (10 May) from the Order Confirmation email at 8AM 29 Feb.  My order status does not show any date, still backordered. 

The only date that changes is the expected lead times on the RPi (item #83T1943) page at Newark.  Until recently it was into August and every day it got later by another day.  As of today when I looked, those days have been set to 15 May.  However, I see those dates whenever I go on the page and are no way linked to my order status.

when you go to your order history you can click on the order number and it will show your more details. on the verry right side of the screen you should see and expected shipping date.

I wonder why Newark allows you to place an order as you would for a normal product, whereas Farnell doesn't allow that and always redirects you to Element 14's "register your interest" page instead.  It's supposed to be one and the same company, isn't it?

ehm, I can't see anything like that, I just have the order date.

so, I just have the confirmation extimate date (well, 2 of them since I got 2 confirmation for same order).