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http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=53410&start=84

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  • sqkybeaver
    sqkybeaver over 12 years ago

    ill try keep this nice.

     

    i think the whole hype about Rpi being the big bad educational tool was nothing more than a pr stunt to get it selling quick, and that is just what happened. i also remember hearing somthing about this being developed by employees of broadcom, when it was first released the soc data sheet required a nondisclosure agreement, so right out of the gate there were problems calling it open source.

     

    i'm sorry if i dont get the idea about teaching computer science with an embeded linux board. don't comp sci cources use full-blown computers already? and if you really want to learn about how computers work, it is much better to start with an 8051 or 8088 and assembly.

     

    but now it seems the more i read, the more i can't suggest the pi for any use other than a media center.

     

    anyways thats my two bits on the the pi.

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  • morgaine
    morgaine over 12 years ago in reply to sqkybeaver

    sheldon bailey wrote:

     

    but now it seems the more i read, the more i can't suggest the pi for any use other than a media center.

     

    Professionals who are aware of the relevant  FCC regulations shouldn't be suggesting the Pi for use in any residential application in FCC jurisdiction anyway, since the device does not have FCC certification for residential use.  That would be a Class B certification, and it doesn't have one at the present date.

     

    I doubt that anyone would deny that media centres constitute an overwhelmingly residential or domestic use of a digital device.  It's probably as close to being a poster child for residential use as one could find anywhere.

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    sqkybeaver over 12 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Morgaine, i agree with its unsuitability because of sub par hardware and or design. however in a properly shielded and fire proof box it would be a wonderfull media center.

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    morgaine over 12 years ago in reply to sqkybeaver

    From what I hear, Pi does indeed make an exceedingly good media centre.  It's just unfortunate that most of the media centre consumers live in nations that have strong residential equipment certification laws, and Class B (residential) certification is one bullet point that the Pi doesn't offer.

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    jamodio over 12 years ago in reply to sqkybeaver

    sheldon bailey wrote:

     

    Morgaine, i agree with its unsuitability because of sub par hardware and or design. however in a properly shielded and fire proof box it would be a wonderfull media center.

     

    Get a Roku, you will spend less money and time.

     

    -J

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    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Professionals who are aware of the relevant  FCC regulations ...

    for the record, I have tried to locate the first professional to credit for raising

    the issue of Class B testing.  Does anyone have any earlier reference than

    https://twitter.com/abishurp/status/188635726030708736

    @Raspberry_Pi Did y'all also do the class B testing (do y'all still plan on doing it?) or are you quitting while you're ahead here?

    7:33 AM - 7 Apr 12


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    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Professionals who are aware of the relevant  FCC regulations ...

    for the record, I have tried to locate the first professional to credit for raising

    the issue of Class B testing.  Does anyone have any earlier reference than

    https://twitter.com/abishurp/status/188635726030708736

    @Raspberry_Pi Did y'all also do the class B testing (do y'all still plan on doing it?) or are you quitting while you're ahead here?

    7:33 AM - 7 Apr 12


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  • morgaine
    morgaine over 12 years ago in reply to Former Member

    coder27 wrote:

     

    for the record, I have tried to locate the first professional to credit for raising

    the issue of Class B testing.  Does anyone have any earlier reference than

    https://twitter.com/abishurp/status/188635726030708736

    Was that posted in April of this year, or 2012?

     

    For our part here on Element14, all the credit clearly has to go to yourself for nailing this issue near the beginning of Pi time and persevering with it until today.  It was only extremely recently that I finally picked up on your FCC links in detail, and was amazed by what I read there.

     

    If Element14 had paid attention to your postings on the subject last year, they wouldn't be in this risky situation they are in today.

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    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Was that posted in April of this year, or 2012?

    It was 7 April 2012.

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  • sqkybeaver
    sqkybeaver over 12 years ago in reply to morgaine

    perhaps the problems with certification was engineered into the Rpi to prevent it from being used as an OEM part of a finished comercial product. keeping it in the educational or maker spaces.

     

    probably not the case.

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