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  • MPS MA732 MagAlpha Angle Sensor Kit with Servo Motor
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Discussion: How Would You Roadtest the MagAlpha Angle Sensor Kit

rscasny
rscasny over 3 years ago

imageI usually provide the technical details and documentation on a roadtest page for people to look over at their leisure.

This material usually gives people ideas on how they would like to roadtest a product. But I think sometimes, it's good to actually talk about how one would roadtest a product, due to perhaps it's something new for many people, or it needs a little more background.

I think this angle sensor kit is one of those products.

When we decided to roadtest this kit, we initially provide the sensor and the communications board. But with only those things, the roadtester would have to mount the magnet and the sensor to the motor shaft. Seemed like heavy lifting, so the supplier came back with the kit that's on this page (right):

community.element14.com/.../mps_magnetic_angle_p

The sensor board is mounted to the end of the motor shaft already (as well as the magnet). The roadtester would need to hook it all up, connecto the Arduino board (not shown in the image at the right) and spin the motor.

But still, how do you actually test it.

More importantly, why is this sensor important to roadtest?

This clip from the sponsor's website pretty much explains it:

The ability to detect position or speed is a fundamental requirement in the control and monitoring of many mechanical systems. Slow speed position measurement in applications such as motorized actuators has historically used resistive potentiometers. In high-speed applications such as servo motors, optical encoders have typically been used. Though potentiometers are inexpensive, they suffer from the drawback of being a moving contact-based assembly, which brings the associated issues of mechanical contact wear and susceptibility to damage from external environmental factors including moisture and dirt ingress. Optical encoders offer high accuracy, but come at a higher price due to the complex nature of their construction. Engineers can solve this dilemma by using contactless rotary magnetic angle sensors that implement Hall-effect sensing.

This page goes into detail about the angle sensor, specifically about its SpinAxis technique: www.monolithicpower.com/.../introduction-to-the-magalpha-magnetic-angle-sensor-family

The kit we are providing to the roadtester is a motor control kit. But we would like to get roadtesters to take a closer look at the angle sensor. Run some tests, play with it, and give some feedback or thoughts about it.

So, that's my backgrounder.

What do you think?

How would you test the sensor?

Even if you don't have the time to take on this roadtest, I'd appreciate your input. It would benefit those members who are thinking about applying.

Thanks.

Randall Scasny
RoadTest Program Manager

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 3 years ago +6
    Hi Randall, That sensor has incredibly high granularity for position sensing, and works to a very good speed (60,000 RPM) and so the uses for it could span across a lot of things that traditionally would…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 3 years ago +4
    Having read a bit more on it, the sensor is very interesting and designed for new and existing applications. The sensor can be read digitally (SPI interface), or it offers a normal rotary encoder output…
  • robogary
    robogary over 3 years ago in reply to ajmorin369 +4
    Hi A.J. - I can't speak officially for the Road Test selection committee, and I dont know what and how many Road tests you've applied for, but I can share my experience. When I first got going with Road…
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  • ajmorin369
    ajmorin369 over 3 years ago

    I am a hobbyist in the electronics field and have been trying to get into being a roadtester and even though I've already applied to quite a few of them I haven't been picked for one. So, I wanted to ask an honest question. What does a new person (on e14 and to Roadtests) with knowledge and electronic skills to solder on SMD components (from package sizes 1206, 0805, 0603, SOT23, LL34, sop8, all the way to the tiny 0402 as well as other little and big components/chips) need to do to be able to be picked for the available roadtesting projects? I mean I know that there are minimum requirements and that's not what I mean, I mean what will it take for someone like me, who isn't an electrical engineer and that wants to learn and help others to learn as well, to get picked for a roadtest? 

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    dougw over 3 years ago in reply to ajmorin369

    There is some great advice from successful road testers already but here are a few points from my perspective:

    It took me many tries and many years to learn how to consistently write winning proposals, but all you need to do is make each one a bit better than the last one and eventually you will start winning. You can look at the road test blogs that were published for road tests where you did not win to see what your proposal would need to convince someone that you could produce a better road test that the one that was published. It could be that you could write a more entertaining road test, but to convince the evaluators, you need to demonstrate it by including a link to something entertaining that you published. It could be that you have a passion to learn about this technology and to prove it you need to explain this or link to something that demonstrates your passion. (you obviously have passion for road testing - make sure it comes across). If you don't have a well know track record of completing road tests, you need to demonstrate you will finish the job by pointing to some example of your dedication. If your proposal demonstrates perseverance, passion, a reasonably comprehensive test plan (that shows you have researched the technology), and maybe throw in a little entertainment potential you are well on your way to success.

    In case it helps, I wrote a blog explaining my thought processes during a successful proposal I wrote:

    /products/roadtest/b/blog/posts/the-story-of-a-power-proposal-of-the-supply-variety

    At the end of it there is a link to what the judges were looking for.

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  • dougw
    dougw over 3 years ago in reply to ajmorin369

    There is some great advice from successful road testers already but here are a few points from my perspective:

    It took me many tries and many years to learn how to consistently write winning proposals, but all you need to do is make each one a bit better than the last one and eventually you will start winning. You can look at the road test blogs that were published for road tests where you did not win to see what your proposal would need to convince someone that you could produce a better road test that the one that was published. It could be that you could write a more entertaining road test, but to convince the evaluators, you need to demonstrate it by including a link to something entertaining that you published. It could be that you have a passion to learn about this technology and to prove it you need to explain this or link to something that demonstrates your passion. (you obviously have passion for road testing - make sure it comes across). If you don't have a well know track record of completing road tests, you need to demonstrate you will finish the job by pointing to some example of your dedication. If your proposal demonstrates perseverance, passion, a reasonably comprehensive test plan (that shows you have researched the technology), and maybe throw in a little entertainment potential you are well on your way to success.

    In case it helps, I wrote a blog explaining my thought processes during a successful proposal I wrote:

    /products/roadtest/b/blog/posts/the-story-of-a-power-proposal-of-the-supply-variety

    At the end of it there is a link to what the judges were looking for.

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