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Prusa Mendel Iteration 2 Stepper Motor Z Issues

Former Member
Former Member over 11 years ago

     So I bought all the components I need to make a PMI2 and put it all together, being sure to measure multiple times so it can be accurate as possible. The only issues Ive had are the electronics, mainly the stepper motors. They're have some slight binding issues which are really apparent on the Z axis. I check all the angles that have to do with it and they are really accurate. I also have the rods lubricated and adjusted the power output to max for the stepper motors. The thing is I don't think that the Z motors are receiving enough power, considering that they are connected together. I've had it sitting for a few months now and I have yet to print anything.

 

     If anyone has a PMI2 or know how I can fix the issue that would be a lot of help. Thanks for taking your time to read this. image

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  • D_Hersey
    D_Hersey over 11 years ago

    Running two motors in parallel is going to double your power requirements and stored energy.  What are the ratings of your drivers and motors, including coil resistance?  Do you have an oscilloscope?  Does it record?

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    Here's the stepper motors i have currently

     

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    and the specs with it 

                                          

    Shaft: 5mm diameter with flat
    Current Per Phase: 1.5A
    Holding Torque: 5.5Kg.cm (76 oz-in)
    Rated Voltage: 4.2V
    NO.of Phase: 2
    Step Angle: 1.8° ± 5%
    Resistance Per Phase: 2.8Ω± 10%
    Inductance Per Phase: 4.8mH± 20%
    Insulation Class: Class B
    Dielectric Strength: 100Mohm
    Operation Temp Range: -20 ~ +40° C
    Lead Wire: 22AWG / 750mm with connector to stepper motor driver

     

    As for the drivers i want to say its a ramps 1.4 for an arduino mega, here's a picture

    Found the kit i bought: SainSmart MEGA2560 A4988 Ramps 1 4 3D Printer Kit for Arduino RepRap | eBay

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    I'm also changing the couplers from the 3d printed to the metal ones and changing my stop switches to mechanical ones

    I don't have an oscilloscope but I do have a multimeter

    Also here's my power supply ratings

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  • D_Hersey
    D_Hersey over 11 years ago

    google isn't letting me see your links

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    Saved the photos to my computer and reloaded them, are they working now?

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  • D_Hersey
    D_Hersey over 11 years ago

    Yes, now I can see them.  Your power supply seems adequate.  See that your connections are solid.  This is a fairly high current deal.  If you are using screw terminals, make sure your wires are freshly tinned and central in the connector and that the screws are tight.

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    I'll try tinning the ends for all of the wires. Also the z motors like to put the carriage at an angle

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    No change. All of the motors are loud and barely move

    Also I'm wondering if the number of teeth on the gear for the x and y axis would affect it much. My current gears have 11 teeth

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  • Nate1616
    Nate1616 over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hello Ryan

    I've seen people with both the top and bottom of the threaded rod constrained which will typically work with printed couplings but once all metal is added noticeable binding is apparent.  Do you happen to have both ends bound?  What kind of bushings are you using with the smooth rod?  Another area to check is make sure the z axis carriage is sitting perpendicular to a level surface.  I've seen a few printers that had the z carriage leveled to the bed but if the bed is not level then the carriage wont be either.  Now if the x and y are binding with belts the cause is usually to tight of belts.  The more teeth you have should be a problem.

     

    Nate

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  • D_Hersey
    D_Hersey over 11 years ago

    Could you post a photo of your situation?  I only have experience with milling and other subtractive methods.  I'm not hip to three-dee printing.

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Nate1616

    I'm waiting for some parts to come in. I'll replace those and then post a video show the issues I'm having

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