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This is how I compare Laplace Conjecture with AI Hype Conjecture

HKPhysicist
HKPhysicist 1 month ago
  • Laplace Conjecture: If you gave me a long enough rigid stick and a fulcrum, I were able to displace the Earth.

At that time, Laplace's Conjecture was believed to be very true from the viewpoint of mechanical world.

100 years later, his conjecture was disproved by a completely new space-time structure - the relativistic space-time structure rigorously proven by every experiment having been done yet.

  • AI Big Hype Conjecture: If we could get enough processing power (resources, investment and finally, money of course), our data centres and their software would finally turn out to be omnipotent.

However, those AI big hype corps cannot even estimate a formula of their conjecture.

  • "Total Volume of Context Stored represents Intelligence and Skill"

This is another conjecture always boosted by AI Big Hype corps.  Here is how a net buddy responds to the above conjecture (credit to him):

If a land-based continental creature (for instance, a chimpanzee) reads all the swimming tutorials which human have ever authored, does it imply that the chimpanzee could swim as well as the swimming trainers?

  • In the future, there are only 2 sets of people left - one set who knows AI and the other set who doesn't.

The implication of this statement is that - if you do not learn AI and pay money to buy AI services right now, you will belong to the 2nd set - the set of poor people.

This is how I respond to the above statement with these analogies:

  1. After the invention of vehicle driven by combustion engine, people were divided into 2 sets - the one who could drive and another set of people who could not drive.  As we know, professional drivers are usually considered as labours; while some very rich people might even do not need to drive a car.
  2. so many similar analogies.
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  • SensoredHacker0
    SensoredHacker0 12 hours ago in reply to DAB

    AI has succeeded. the userspace of AI is more of the fad. Im looking at AI as a means to get data. from that perspective, AI has been wildly successful. what if the user wants data about a proprietary thing? lol flag it!

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  • SensoredHacker0
    SensoredHacker0 12 hours ago

    all knowledge, and all knowledge worth knowing aren't even close to the same thing. 

    I've been placed on the Tero project. Hey guys, why did we name it that?
    ( because someone in marketing thinks dinosaurs are cool, but wanted to avoid the PT spelling, for something like pterodactyl.  ) 
    We're really hoping that everyone else wasn't paying attention in Latin classes. 
    still we could have looked into the etymology a little more for our heating system flagship product name. 
    One way or another, we'll keep you warm! 

    I dont think the promise of AI is in having to learn it. The objective from the start was to know you better than you know yourself. 
    This little hiccup in the AI timeline where everyone on earth is feeding into the AI landscape is really useful training data, but isnt the real purposed of the thing init?
    Bonus! people will pay to participate! lol. 

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  • HKPhysicist
    HKPhysicist 2 days ago in reply to manojroy123

    I am glad this article has brought you some happy moment.

    I just concluded some of my and friends' ideas while I browsed youtube videos, news, etc.

    We must express different viewpoints.

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  • colporteur
    colporteur 26 days ago in reply to colporteur

    It is not my intention to monopolize the topic but I just found this quote and it is so how I feel.

    "Future shock is the shattering stress and disorientation that we induce in individuals by subjecting them to too much change in too short a time." quote by writer Alvin Toffler. It describes the psychological paralysis, anxiety, and disorientation people experience when the pace of technological and social change outstrips their ability to adapt. They is a picture of me next to this!

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  • colporteur
    colporteur 26 days ago

    K, I am more and more becoming a believer that if we do not learn AI we are at a disadvantage. Since joining ChatGPT Plus, I’ve had to confront many personal biases to maximize my effectiveness.

    I refused to upgrade my big-button cell phone until finally it prevented me from doing what I wanted to do. The same for my AI subscription. I had reached a point that no AI or free AI limited, me.

    I have 40 years of learning to apply when I use AI. I find it difficult to direct its actions toward my goals, as it asserts its own will. Microsoft unilaterally determines this approach, removing your choice.

    My quest at the moment is to learn how to talk to AI. If you could follow my problem-solving chats with ChatGPT, you would find the response. STOP: Tell me how to tell you how I want our interaction to occur. Since getting a subscription, I have discovered there are personal settings that i am using more often.

    Learning how to interact with AI appears to be a self-learning exercise. If you find someone willing to share their insight, it can make the interaction more fruitful. I wish I could still have my big button cell phone. That is not reasonable, but then again I liked wooden hockey sticks. You bring one of those into a dressing room today, no one will sit next to you.

    Bt the way. Great topic. I only wish it was with a bunch of folks around a table drinking coffee and trying to solve world hunger.

    P.S. I even used AI to proof this document so these are not my words. No that statement is not true. AI doesn't like my grammar or lack of spelling skills. My grade 10 teacher had the same AI issue.

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  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo 1 month ago in reply to DAB

    I think "AI" is such an ambiguous and ill-defined concept that it can succeed and fail at the same time.  Those segments that fail will be defined as hype and those that succeed will just become part of what we do - like the "decision systems" of the 1980's.

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    DAB 1 month ago

    You make the assumption that AI will succeed.

    I have been following AI for nearly 50 years and in all of that time, it has yet to produce what I call a killer app.

    Yes there are some fancy tools that people say are AI, but so far I have been underwhelmed.

    There are far more things in the world that will work without AI then there are things that will be done by AI.

    Until AI is verified and validated, it is a very dangerous piece of software. It is only when it gets you into trouble, not if.

    When I see a useful product out of AI I will evaluate it, but it will have a high bar to reach before I am willing to pay money to use one.

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  • robogary
    robogary 1 month ago

    In Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (1984), Scotty says, "The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain."

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  • manojroy123
    manojroy123 1 month ago

    Very interesting article.

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