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How can i test RS-485

Dsoky
Dsoky over 2 years ago

Hello, i am looking for a way to test MAX-485 , i do not have any idea how to do it , anyone can help me?

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 2 years ago in reply to Dsoky +2
    Perhaps Jan Axelson's book 'Serial Port Complete' might help you ? http://janaxelson.com/spc.htm It covers the basics of serial communications, covers working with RS485 networks, and includes some…
  • KennyMillar
    KennyMillar over 2 years ago in reply to Dsoky +2
    Yeah no problem, here it is: https://www.analog.com/media/jp/technical-documentation/data-sheets/1111.pdf If you have any questions please feel free to ask - I use these chips in loads of things. …
  • Dsoky
    Dsoky over 2 years ago in reply to KennyMillar +2
    Ok good stuff i found that module https://handsontec.com/index.php/product/ft232r-usb-to-serialttl-converter-module/ will that work ?
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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago

    Do you want to test the RS-485 serial protocol? I could not find a MAX-485 device.

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  • Dsoky
    Dsoky over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    it is an IC not a device sir.

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to Dsoky

    looking again for MAX-485 IC ...

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to Dsoky

    Do I understand it right that you want to test the RS-485 protocol on a MAX485 tranceiver?

    I have some experience with other receivers from TI. What is the microcontroller you are using to talk to the MAX485?

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  • Dsoky
    Dsoky over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Yes that is right, i was thinking about using a software on pc like SSCOM but i only knew about it today and to get USB TO RS485 Converter, and connect the pins of this adapter to the (A and B) of the IC, Then i connect the output pins of the IC to another USB TO RS485 Converter which is connected to a different USB port or even different pc , I do not know if this is stupid or not it is just what i thought about and no idea if it worksSweat smile. but i am looking for any way to test this IC.

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to Dsoky

    It looks like you are doing something that's right. Connect two serial logic devises to each other via two RS-485 drivers. In my experience, that has always worked, if the logic devices have the same settings, and the drivers are connected correctly. RS-485 is a standard and the devises that claim to support it, usually do.

    What is going wrong in your case?

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to Dsoky

    It looks like you are doing something that's right. Connect two serial logic devises to each other via two RS-485 drivers. In my experience, that has always worked, if the logic devices have the same settings, and the drivers are connected correctly. RS-485 is a standard and the devises that claim to support it, usually do.

    What is going wrong in your case?

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  • Dsoky
    Dsoky over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Well the thing is i am not sure if it will work or not so i was asking before i buy the converters cuz it is not easy to get them here so if i will get them it must be worth is, And i still do not know what to do with the other pins of the IC. still looking for answers.

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to Dsoky

    What other pins are you referring to?

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  • Dsoky
    Dsoky over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    RO and DI.

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  • javagoza
    javagoza over 2 years ago in reply to Dsoky

    You can see the datasheet and this application note

    AN-960 RS-485/RS-422 Circuit Implementation Guide Application Note (Rev. 0) (analog.com)

    MAX490 Low-Power, Slew-Rate-Limited RS-485/RS-422 Transceivers | Analog Devices

    I have used rs-485 communications to communicate with point of sale terminals and access control terminal from PCs. Normally using an rs-485 card or an USB dongle.From the PC it appears as a virtual serial port, it depends on the driver that you have been provided.

    I don't understand very well what you want to do.

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  • Dsoky
    Dsoky over 2 years ago in reply to javagoza

    i see that useful thanks, what i want to do is to test if the ic is wotking or not, I am a maintenence engineer and for devices that have communication fault we cant be so sure if that ic (MAX458) for example is faulty , an so i am looking for a way to test the ic itself.

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to Dsoky

    Ow. In that case I'd build a little testbed. The cheapest would most likely be 2 arduinos, one arduino CAN shield, and one custom little test-jig that you create to put the IC-under-test on. Test firmware already exists

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  • javagoza
    javagoza over 2 years ago in reply to Dsoky

    So I think you can go for a simple circuit to test the chips on their receive and transmit functions.

    See datasheet

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