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Temperature sensor accuracy

ntewinkel
ntewinkel over 1 year ago

Hi all,

I have two temperature sensors near each other, outside. In the winter I was using one to keep track of the nectar temperature in a hummingbird feeder, but I just left it hanging there for the summer.

Here is the typical result:

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The top line is a dht11 or could be 12. It includes pressure and humidity. The bottom line is a ds18b20 in a metal tube.

Both are digital, but one is nearly always about 1 or 2 degrees higher than the other. Generally it’s fine to give me a close enough idea of what’s going on, but I think I should be more accurate when looking at the freezing point.

Do I need to calibrate them? How would I go about doing that? Ie, what can I trust as a proper baseline? I don’t have access to any really guaranteed kind of thermometer, I think. Thinking 

Thanks in advance for any wisdom you can send my way!

-Nico

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  • dougw
    dougw over 1 year ago +5 verified
    If they are waterproof you can stick them in a slush of ice and water to get a zero degrees reference. If they aren't waterproof you can put them in a plastic bag in the ice/water mix. If they can take…
  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 1 year ago +5 verified
    Comparing data sheets it looks like the accuracy of the DHT11 is ±2°C whereas the DS18B20 is ±0.5°C It will be interesting to see what your testing shows.
  • wolfgangfriedrich
    wolfgangfriedrich over 1 year ago in reply to dougw +4 verified
    During the ice-water test, you have to be careful not to touch the ice-cubes. They are still colder than zero degC. I learnt this during a thermocouple roadtest.
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  • shabaz
    +1 shabaz over 1 year ago

    Hi Nico,

    If required, these types of boards are quite neat to act as a sort of semi-reference. The accuracy is claimed to be +- 0.1 degrees C within a certain range. I have an older model that claims +- 0.3 degrees C I think.

    They can be accessed via Bluetooth on mobile, and can show historical data as well. Link: https://www.newark.com/sensirion/sht4x-smartgadget/ref-design-board-temp-humidity/dp/74AJ2003 

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    0 ntewinkel over 1 year ago in reply to shabaz

    Thanks for pointing that out, that's really accurate!
    That would solve the problem of which sensor to trust as a baseline.

    A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure Laughing

    I've added it to my wishlist Slight smile

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    0 ntewinkel over 1 year ago in reply to beacon_dave
    beacon_dave said:
    Has someone been overdoing the rock picking recently perhaps ? 

    Joy

    Well, I DID overdo it the other day and have been too sore to continue haha ouch oops. But this is for the in-laws. We don't even own an ATV!!

    Yesterday I was trying to bleed the brakes on his old truck (yeah I don't even do mechanics on my own vehicles anymore Thinking ), but all the bleeders are rusted in place except one. But it's a bit better. We noticed they were bad when we borrowed the truck a few days ago. Several months ago a brake line broke, so they replaced it and then never bled the air out!! I can't believe they left it like that! We told him to take it to the shop to get the bleeders replaced and get them to flush the fluid at the same time, so that's happening next week.

    Seems as they get older (he's 84 now), they don't want to admit they can't do all the things they did when they were young, so they "start" the project and then "ask for help" which pretty much means we have to do it. We're slowly trying to get them to just take it to the professionals, but ugh, we often still get drawn into it.

    I don't mind the occasional bit of tooling, and I guess it's a good skill to keep up Shrug

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  • kmikemoo
    0 kmikemoo over 1 year ago in reply to ntewinkel

    I just hope I make it to 84. Laughing  If I can do anything then, I'll feel victorious!

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    0 ntewinkel over 1 year ago in reply to kmikemoo

    Laughing yep me too, and I hope I also have the kind of energy they have!

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  • beacon_dave
    0 beacon_dave over 1 year ago in reply to kmikemoo

    Project 14 theme - 'Help the Aged'  Slight smile

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  • beacon_dave
    0 beacon_dave over 1 year ago in reply to ntewinkel

    Perhaps that's because they keep delegating the heavy tasks to others Slight smile

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  • DAB
    0 DAB over 1 year ago in reply to kmikemoo

    I am now the oldest surviving male in my family over the last three generations.

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    0 kmikemoo over 1 year ago in reply to beacon_dave

    beacon_dave If we ever go that route, I've actually got an idea for a project.  That alone is unusual for me. Joy
    I had better write it down - because we know in the moment... I'll for forget what the project was.

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    0 kmikemoo over 1 year ago in reply to DAB

    DAB Congratulations - sincerely.
    My Dad was concerned about how long he would live.  His Dad died in his mid-fifties and he never knew his grandfather.
    When he was in his early 60's, I reminded him that he was setting a new standard every day.
    He lived to 83 - and a month.  Even in his last months, I would chastise him for chipping ice from his driveway.  "I gotta do something!", he would tell me.
    "I get it, Dad.  Just do something else."

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    0 beacon_dave over 1 year ago in reply to kmikemoo
    kmikemoo said:
    I had better write it down - because we know in the moment... I'll for forget what the project was.

    Just need a solution now to help remind you where you wrote it down... Slight smile

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    0 ntewinkel over 1 year ago in reply to shabaz
    shabaz said:
    for instance having the sensor powered up will warm it, or if its on a board then other components or drafts will heat or cool it.

    It's super windy just now...

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    And the sensors are both reporting a similar temperature now... the light blue line is the DHT sensor that is inside of a 3D printed housing and usually shows a few degrees warmer... maybe I need to rethink that setup!

    I have ice cubes in the freezer that should be ready soon, so I can test the freezing point with both sensors.

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    0 ntewinkel over 1 year ago in reply to shabaz
    shabaz said:
    for instance having the sensor powered up will warm it, or if its on a board then other components or drafts will heat or cool it.

    It's super windy just now...

    image

    And the sensors are both reporting a similar temperature now... the light blue line is the DHT sensor that is inside of a 3D printed housing and usually shows a few degrees warmer... maybe I need to rethink that setup!

    I have ice cubes in the freezer that should be ready soon, so I can test the freezing point with both sensors.

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