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Operation of simple Li-ion Battery Charge System

jw0752
jw0752 over 7 years ago

I am testing out a cordless screw driver. When I first plugged it into the charger a red LED light was suppose to light but it didn't. After a couple hours I opened the unit up and checked for circuit problems,

 

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The SOT89 in the center right of the circuit board is a B772 NPN transistor and it controls the charge current. Below it, the small transistor is a 2N7002 ( an N Ch MOSFET) and it is the driver that controls the B772. The U1 which I haven't IDed is probably the charge controller. When I first opened the unit I had 5 volts on the emitter of the B772 and no volts on the Collector. The Li-ion battery was sitting at 0.6 volts. In the course of my testing I eventually put a small token charge into the battery and at this point the unit started charging as normal.

 

My question is this: Did the extremely low charge level of the battery cause the charge circuit to default to a no charge situation or is there likely a secondary fault in the circuit that has just decided to temporarily heal itself? Any insights would be appreciated. I have minimal experience with this type of charging circuit.

 

John

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  • genebren
    genebren over 7 years ago +9 verified
    John, I am working on a Li-ion battery charger right now (and I have developed others in the past). Most of the Li-ion chargers have a 'battery check' (injecting a small current into the battery and looking…
  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 7 years ago +8 suggested
    You should know by now that anything that is broken, always works when you take it to get fixed ... It wouldn't surprise me if the low voltage caused the charging to shut down. Lithium Ion cells shouldn…
  • jw0752
    jw0752 over 7 years ago in reply to genebren +7
    Hi Gene, that is exactly the info I was looking for. There was some crystallized spillage on the circuit board which would have provided a discharge path for the battery while it was still liquid. It looked…
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    0 jw0752 over 7 years ago

    I reuploaded the picture in case it still wasn't coming through.

    John

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    0 genebren over 7 years ago in reply to jw0752

    John,

    The reloaded picture shows up now.  Strange, but the gunk on the board looks like it might have come off the positive terminal of the battery (assuming that the battery, while in the case, sits at about the same position as in your picture).

    Gene

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    0 jw0752 over 7 years ago in reply to genebren

    The board you are looking at was after I cleaned it up. Here is what it looked like before:

     

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    The battery was my first thought too but there was no sign of leakage on the battery itself.

    John

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    0 mcb1 over 7 years ago in reply to jw0752

    I've seen this type of residue on some items before.

    My thought is that the flux hasn't been cleaned off fully, and with some moisture it has turned into this.

     

    I found it when my parents had a cordless phone that the company wouldn't repair under warranty because they claimed it had water damage.

    My parents asked me to look at it, I cleaned it up with meths/alcohol and it worked for many years after that.

     

    Mark

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    0 mcb1 over 7 years ago in reply to jw0752

    I've seen this type of residue on some items before.

    My thought is that the flux hasn't been cleaned off fully, and with some moisture it has turned into this.

     

    I found it when my parents had a cordless phone that the company wouldn't repair under warranty because they claimed it had water damage.

    My parents asked me to look at it, I cleaned it up with meths/alcohol and it worked for many years after that.

     

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