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goal for 2023: use a conical solder tip and enjoy it

Jan Cumps
Jan Cumps over 2 years ago

You have to challenge your habits. I have always soldered with chisel and sloped/bevel round tips.
Many irons come with a conical tip. A lot of people solder happily with it.

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I have several, to use with an iron that I like. But I don't like soldering with the conical tips. I am not good at it.
That's going to change this year. I'm going to try and always use these tips when appropriate, and learn to love them.
The real goal is to become better at soldering with the conical versions than I am now with chisel and sloped types. And to enjoy the adaption path.

I'll keep you posted.

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to ntewinkel +5
    Hehe at least you got a choice : ) I didn't know of any other styles growing up, other than bevel. All the instructions taught everyone to use this style of tip: This is from the children's Ladybird…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago +4
    Maybe they are good on QFN. They look like they could be usable to drag the tip right into the corner when manually soldering QFN. I'm the same, no good with conical. Although the very finest/pointiest…
  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 2 years ago +4
    I've used my conical so much that it's "turned" into a chisel :). My technique hasn't changed much really ... but I do prefer conical for the potential for fine-pitch touch-ups. Not as nice for transferring…
  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago

    Meanwhile: this is what my training board looks like. Virtually every component has been removed and replaced several times. With hot air and with irons.
    The darkish parts are areas I've been using the last days with a conical tip. It's not burnt PCB. it's the colour of the flux I use once it's cooled down.

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  • ntewinkel
    ntewinkel over 2 years ago in reply to shabaz

    I just checked… it’s a conical tip, and I have a super fine conical one lying next to the stand.

    And I have NO idea where the rest of the tips are!  

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to ntewinkel

    Hehe at least you got a choice : ) I didn't know of any other styles growing up, other than bevel. All the instructions taught everyone to use this style of tip:

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    This is from the children's Ladybird book (PDF link) by Rev. Dobbs who passed away a few years ago (he was quite famous in amateur radio circles in the UK).

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  • ntewinkel
    ntewinkel over 2 years ago in reply to shabaz

    I started with whatever was in the old used soldering iron I picked up at a garage sale, the tip was irregular with chunks missing  Laughing

    actually, that’s not entirely true - I think the first iron I used was in a wood burning kit, but that was long before i did any soldering.

    i found the other tips though! The plastic pouch they are in was tucked up against the side of the organizer and I must’ve looked past them at least three times!
    it didn’t contain any bevel tips Face palm after all that searching. But I switched tips with the weller corded iron, which I think might be a tiny bit beveled.. I’ll have to use it and clean the solder off it more to see clearly.

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  • neilk
    neilk over 2 years ago in reply to shabaz

    I've never seen the ladybird book, but the technique of building on a wooden baseboard, with brass screws was exactly how I was taught at school radio club back in the early 1960s

    Neil

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to neilk
    neilk said:
    but the technique of building on a wooden baseboard, with brass screws was exactly how I was taught at school radio club back in the early 1960s

    Same here, in the early 80s. Except that the screws were nails, in a matrix. 

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  • phoenixcomm
    phoenixcomm over 2 years ago

    Interesting, I have never really liked conical tips as the heat transfer is not that good. Since  I am very fortunate to own a Metcal my go-to tip is a "micro-chisel" STTC-142.

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  • phoenixcomm
    phoenixcomm over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Can you give me a reference for it? I have NASA-STD-87393.3 w/ Change 2 DEC 1997 which is the main standard.  Chapter 6.5 it says

    a. Select tools and equipment that provide a means of applying and controlling the
    amount of heat to the metals to be joined that is compatible with their size, shape, and thermal
    conductivity.
    b. Prohibit the use of soldering guns. 

    have/had the NASA soldering school cert (before Surface Mount). I normally work at least a 45-degree angle sometimes more. 

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  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo over 2 years ago

    I've been tempted by this thread to try a chisel tip.  Up to this point, I've only had conical.  My favorite one is the slightly offset tip (900M-T-IS).

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  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Jan Impressive!  That takes a lot of skill.

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