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goal for 2023: use a conical solder tip and enjoy it

Jan Cumps
Jan Cumps over 2 years ago

You have to challenge your habits. I have always soldered with chisel and sloped/bevel round tips.
Many irons come with a conical tip. A lot of people solder happily with it.

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I have several, to use with an iron that I like. But I don't like soldering with the conical tips. I am not good at it.
That's going to change this year. I'm going to try and always use these tips when appropriate, and learn to love them.
The real goal is to become better at soldering with the conical versions than I am now with chisel and sloped types. And to enjoy the adaption path.

I'll keep you posted.

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to ntewinkel +5
    Hehe at least you got a choice : ) I didn't know of any other styles growing up, other than bevel. All the instructions taught everyone to use this style of tip: This is from the children's Ladybird…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago +4
    Maybe they are good on QFN. They look like they could be usable to drag the tip right into the corner when manually soldering QFN. I'm the same, no good with conical. Although the very finest/pointiest…
  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 2 years ago +4
    I've used my conical so much that it's "turned" into a chisel :). My technique hasn't changed much really ... but I do prefer conical for the potential for fine-pitch touch-ups. Not as nice for transferring…
  • baldengineer
    baldengineer over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Regarding #1, this is why I occasionally solder something with my left-hand. (I'm right-hand dominate.)

    It is good practice to try something new and it helps for the times I need it!

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to kmikemoo

    Seems that my post convinced more people to abandon conical than to learn it Sweat smile

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Often in videos one sees people taking care to solder, and then snipping the excess length off the component leads. I'm fairly sure the component leads should be snipped _first_ (no idea what NASA do, but I imagine they do the same). At least in a firm making military stuff, they snipped component leads first, since it minimises shock, and also I think there's less risk of corrosion on the exposed cut end (I could be wrong - I know almost nothing about metals and chemistry). Since then, it's always been a habit for me to cut the leads first, even though my prototypes are never going to be exposed to mil environments.

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  • ntewinkel
    ntewinkel over 2 years ago in reply to shabaz
    shabaz said:
    cut the leads first

    Interesting! Does that mean snipping them afterwards could cause a break in the solder joint?

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to shabaz
    shabaz said:
    Often in videos one sees people taking care to solder, and then snipping the excess length off the component leads.

    Me Blush. That's how we learned it at school:

    • clean the leads
    • insert
    • bend slightly at the underside to keep in place
    • solder
    • clip
    • repeat 100x
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  • ntewinkel
    ntewinkel over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    I find that's the easiest way. But I'm by no means an expert. I grasp for any opportunity that makes things easier Slight smile

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to ntewinkel

    Perhaps, if it corrodes there. Or it could shock the entire board (although most components are a lot more rugged these days than they used to be).

    I don't know the chemical reasons for it, but I guess the exposed copper/plating/solder could interact all together with moisture and air.

    I doubt it matters at all with modern components being used indoors, but it's a habit (and does mean the joints visually look nicer with solder all over them!

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    It's seen a lot in videos from (say) Adafruit etc. Wrong though! (I mean if they are going to teach, they may as well try to do it properly, since it's little effort).

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 2 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Also depends if the cut is to be coated afterwards or not.

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    https://workmanship.nasa.gov/lib/insp/2%20books/frameset.html

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to beacon_dave

    I think it is still cut first, i.e. this was a scenario where the soldering didn't cover the top of the joint despite it being cut beforehand. Not sure! 

    I guess this shows it must be a chemical reason, e.g. corrosion.

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