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Arduino: now a Single Board Computer!

fustini
fustini over 11 years ago

So I often get annoyed when folks refer to the AVR-based Arduino boards (or even the ARM microcontroller DUE) as a Single Board Computer.  The Yun blurred the lines a bit... but the news today from Maker Faire Rome has the Arduino brand fully in the SBC world now:

 

Arduino Announces new Boards and Collaboration with Intel and T.I.

http://makezine.com/2013/10/03/arduino-announces-two-new-linux-boards/

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coder27 posted about the Intel-based Arduino board, and there is also an upcoming Arduino model based on the TI Sitara (same as in the BeagleBone Black - an ARM Cortex A8).

 

I just read an interview on Make with jkridner about the new Arduino TRE:

 

Talking to Jason Kridner About the new Arduino Tre

http://makezine.com/2013/10/03/talking-to-jason-kridner-about-the-new-arduino-tre/

"The focus is on simplicity. It isn’t just a BeagleBone split in the middle [...] If you know Linux, you’ll be able to come in that way. If you know Arduino, you’ll be able to use the AVR as the system master."

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I'm not sure exactly what this all means, but it is exciting to have more SBC options and the Arduino brand will be an interesting influence on the SBC market.  I do know that I didn't need any coffee to feel wide awake this morning image

 

What is the feeling of our SBC discussion group here?

 

cheers,

drew

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  • morgaine
    morgaine over 11 years ago +1
    I like the term "bare metal microcontroller" to denote the processors on Arduino AVR and ARM Cortex-M class boards. These contrast strongly with those boards which are based on "application processors…
  • johnbeetem
    johnbeetem over 11 years ago +1
    I have no problem with this use of Single-Board Computer. The earliest SBCs had very simple processors like Intel 8080 or MOS Technology 6502, which didn't have MMUs and didn't address much memory. When…
  • morgaine
    morgaine over 11 years ago +1
    Drew, leaving aside the puzzling situation with Galileo and how it's managing to run its peculiar version of Yocto, the Arduino TRE looks very good indeed! In fact, over the last year and a half, haven…
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    morgaine over 11 years ago

    We were asking just this week for SBCs with dual NICs for comms applications like firewall/routers.  Well the Galileo has a mini-PCIe slot, so just add a mini PCI-e external NIC like this Syba Mini-PCIe Gigabit Ethernet Card and we have a totally OSHW comms appliance.

     

    nuttcp is ready and waiting. image

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    Problemchild over 11 years ago in reply to morgaine

    Morgane if the only linux this SBC is good for is uC linux maybe we'll have problems getting conventional drivers working for devices such as that GigE PCI-e card.

    This SBC market as certainly become a crowded and complicated place.

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    morgaine over 11 years ago in reply to Problemchild

    Argggh....!!!!! image

     

    It's very important to read whole threads or at least scan them, or the wrong conclusion can be reached.

     

    As soon as Walt Gribben informed us about the Developer's Manual and Hardware Reference Manual and noted that they both describe the MMU, it was instantly obvious that the Quark can run full-blown Linux in all its glory, and hence there is no need for uClinux.  That would have been a very bad thing, but fortunately it's not the case.

     

    I hope that my initial observation doesn't get perpetuated now that we know better.  I think I'll add an appropriate addendum to one or more posts to try to prevent further misunderstandings.

     

    The thread was a learning process, and we got there eventually. image

     

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    Done --- a small addendum added to post #1 in the thread.  It would be unfair on Intel for this misunderstanding to be perpetuated.  The board looks pretty interesting to me now that I know that the Quark is a proper applications processor and not just a microcontroller.

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    morgaine over 11 years ago in reply to Problemchild

    Argggh....!!!!! image

     

    It's very important to read whole threads or at least scan them, or the wrong conclusion can be reached.

     

    As soon as Walt Gribben informed us about the Developer's Manual and Hardware Reference Manual and noted that they both describe the MMU, it was instantly obvious that the Quark can run full-blown Linux in all its glory, and hence there is no need for uClinux.  That would have been a very bad thing, but fortunately it's not the case.

     

    I hope that my initial observation doesn't get perpetuated now that we know better.  I think I'll add an appropriate addendum to one or more posts to try to prevent further misunderstandings.

     

    The thread was a learning process, and we got there eventually. image

     

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    Done --- a small addendum added to post #1 in the thread.  It would be unfair on Intel for this misunderstanding to be perpetuated.  The board looks pretty interesting to me now that I know that the Quark is a proper applications processor and not just a microcontroller.

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