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e14 Contributor
e14 Contributor over 15 years ago

Hello,

Still using the free version and still at newby silly question level.

I am creating (at least trying to) my first PCB board which is going to be a PMW. I started by ordering all the coponents from digikey (got an head acke with their web tool..)

 

My coponents are in my ordering list:

* SN74ACC14N: Found it sounds good

* EVU-F3lFL3B14 (potentiometer): even with the datacheet I do not find it

* 1N5817 (diode): can not find it... 9there is of course some close enough)

* BUL704 (NPN) was not able to find it directly but using the number of the datasheet TO-220 whihc was not in the database either I end up finding it using TO220...

* 1N914BTR (diode) was not able to find it... (same thing found stuff close enough after some time but my electronic level is limited)

 

And the list is going a like that on every conponent.

My frustration level in rising, I spent more time looking ofr the components that I will spend on creating the board (step that I have note reached yet...)

 

 

So simple questions:

1) I am doing something wrong?

2) If I am not doing anything wrong where can I find an extended library of components?

3) If netheir one or two are possible, how do you proceed on your side to order components? you try to see if they exist in Eagle then in DIgikey (for example) and then only order them?

 

Thank you for your help

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago

    Am 15.03.2011 21:51, schrieb badbad2142:

    Hello,

    Still using the free version and still at newby silly question level.

    I am creating (at least trying to) my first PCB board which is going to be a PMW. I started by order all the coponents for m digikey (got an head acke with their web tool..)

     

    My coponents are:

    • SN74ACC14N: Found it sounds good

    • EVU-F3lFL3B14 (potentiometer): even wiht the datacheet I do not find it

     

     

    Sorry, no email adress to send the extended lbr.

     

     

    • 1N5817 (diode): can not find it...

     

    Use diode.lbr -> device DIODE- with package variant DO41-10 and set the

    VALUE to 1N5817.

     

     

    • BUL704 (NPN) was not able to find it directly but using the number of the datasheet TO-220 whihc was not in the database either I end up finding it using TO220...

     

    Use transistor.lbr -> device *-NPN- with package variant TO220 and set

    the VALUE to BUL704.

     

    • 1N914BTR (diode) was not able to find it...

     

    Use diode.lbr -> device DIODE- with package variant DO35-10 and set the

    VALUE to 1N914BTR.

     

     

    And the list is going and going like that on every conponent.

    My frustration level in rising, I spent more time looking ofr the components that I will spend on

    > creating the board (step that I have note reached yet...)

     

    Plase read

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Thank you both for your answers.

    My mail adress is abessy@free.fr ;-)


    I was hoping to spend more time to design the PCB and less on the components selection but I understand that all of them can not exists. It is just hard from the point of view that I am not doing PCB often (in fact it is the first) nor I am working in the electronic field so I am not fluent with the components equivalence (yet).

     

    But I will get at it then...

     

    Thank you again for your answers.

    Regards

    Alexandre Bessy

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    badbad2142 wrote:

    Thank you both for your answers.

    My mail adress is abessy@free.fr (mailto:abessy@free.fr) image

     

    I was hoping to spend more time to design the PCB and less on the components selection but I understand that all of them can not exists. It is just hard from the point of view that I am not doing PCB often (in fact it is the first) nor I am working in the electronic field so I am not fluent with the components equivalence (yet).

     

     

    Just a comment from a guy who does electronics design for >25 years:

    Packaging, component selection and the creation of library parts is

    boring but it is often 50% of the job. Especially on cost critical

    designs. So it is very important to learn the library editor of a new

    CAD system very soon. Eagle isn't particularly easy to learn in that

    respect but with persistence you'll get there.

     

    Afterwards, when you haven't used the program for a while it is normal

    to forget things.

     

    By the way, the Digikey search engine is hands down the best there is,

    there ever was. If you learn how to use that (easy) it becomes a

    wonderful tool to find electronic parts. And now they also let you sort

    by price.

     

     

    But I will get at it then...

     

     

    En peu du vin rouge, du fromage et la bonne musique ... and it will all

    come together nicely image

     

    --

    Cordialement, Joerg

     

    http://www.analogconsultants.com/

     

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Next question:

    When I am doing a polygone it does not go around the legs of my components but let behind some incovered spots (I understand that a picture would be clearer:[IMG]http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/badbad214/Eagle/Polygon.jpg[/IMG] ) what is the parameter that I shall change?

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Works perfectly for me thank you Gary

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    On 3/21/2011 2:20 PM, badbad2142 wrote:

    I also bake my own but never been able to create a real baguette... here in AR we have the Boulevard Bread which is the closest from the real thing and for the cheese the place is called "the French market" image the taste are Ok but concerning the prices it is another story.

     

    In my Board when I have launched a "Autorouter SetUp" and do not like the result how do I come back to the previous state? (undo doesn't do anything).

     

    Use the ripup command ( type HELP RIPUP), it can also be restricted to

    certain nets, or all nets, or all nets except certain nets.

     

    I recommend you do your critical routes manually first, save it, and

    then autoroute the rest, especially if you have lots of manual routes,

    then it is easy to start over.

     

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    I also bake my own but never been able to create a real baguette... here in AR we have the Boulevard Bread which is the closest from the real thing and for the cheese the place is called "the French market" :-) the taste are Ok but concerning the prices it is another story.

     

    In my Board when I have launched a "Autorouter SetUp" and do not like the result how do I come back to the previous state? (undo doesn't do anything).

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Gary Gofstein wrote:

    On 3/21/2011 11:20 AM, Joerg wrote:

    >> badbad2142 wrote:

    >>

    >>

    >>

    >>>

    >>> Joerg: I am sad (but also veyr happy) to say that I am currently

    >>> living in the US and undertsand perfectly what you mean concerning

    >>> the cheese!!! Trust me...

    >>>

    >>> image

    >>>

    >>

    >> Costco often carries Boursin, the three-packs with different flavors.

    >> Occasionally they have a Camembert that's actually fairly good if left

    >> outside the fridge for an hour or so. But not very often image

    >>

    >> World Market and Trader Joe's are also good places to hunt for tasty

    >> European cheeses, if you have those store in your area. Bread is another

    >> story and we sometimes bake our own, in the barbecue.

    >>

    always bake my own.

     

     

    Very good. We also bake our pizza in the barbecue, over charcoal. Most

    of the time coals from real firewood. Even when it hails.

     

     

    @OP: lay out your board in mm if you wish ( I often do ),

    but keep schematics at 0.100".

     

     

    Yes, except for library symbols. In order for the more complicated ones

    to look good it is important to switch the grid down to 0.025" or so.

    But make sure outlines and pins are on the 0.100" grid.

     

    --

    Regards, Joerg

     

    http://www.analogconsultants.com/

     

    "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.

    Use another domain or send PM.

     

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    On 3/21/2011 11:20 AM, Joerg wrote:

    badbad2142 wrote:

     

     

    >>

    >> Joerg: I am sad (but also veyr happy) to say that I am currently

    >> living in the US and undertsand perfectly what you mean concerning

    >> the cheese!!! Trust me...

    >>

    >> image

    >>

    >

    Costco often carries Boursin, the three-packs with different flavors.

    Occasionally they have a Camembert that's actually fairly good if left

    outside the fridge for an hour or so. But not very often image

     

    World Market and Trader Joe's are also good places to hunt for tasty

    European cheeses, if you have those store in your area. Bread is another

    story and we sometimes bake our own, in the barbecue.

     

    always bake my own.

     

    @OP: lay out your board in mm if you wish ( I often do ),

    but keep schematics at 0.100".

     

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    badbad2142 wrote:

     

     

     

    Joerg: I am sad (but also veyr happy) to say that I am currently

    living in the US and undertsand perfectly what you mean concerning

    the cheese!!! Trust me...

     

    image

     

     

    Costco often carries Boursin, the three-packs with different flavors.

    Occasionally they have a Camembert that's actually fairly good if left

    outside the fridge for an hour or so. But not very often image

     

    World Market and Trader Joe's are also good places to hunt for tasty

    European cheeses, if you have those store in your area. Bread is another

    story and we sometimes bake our own, in the barbecue.

     

    --

    Regards, Joerg

     

    http://www.analogconsultants.com/

     

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago in reply to Richard_H

    Thank you Richard.

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    Richard_H over 15 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Am 21.03.2011 02:33, schrieb badbad2142:

    as an example:

    http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/badbad214/Eagle/legnumber.jpg

     

    on this component from the library how do you know if the pin and gates are numbered as in the datasheet of the component?

     

    AB

     

     

     

    SET PAD ON or OFF

    or go to Options/Set/Misc menu and look for "Display pad names".

     

     

    --

    Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Best regards

    Richard Hammerl

      CadSoft Support -- hotline@cadsoft.de

      FAQ: http://www.cadsoft.de/faq.htm

     

     

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    as an example:

    http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/badbad214/Eagle/legnumber.jpg

     

    on this component from the library how do you know if the pin and gates are numbered as in the datasheet of the component?

     

    AB

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    as an example:

    http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/badbad214/Eagle/legnumber.jpg

     

    on this component from the library how do you know if the pin and gates are numbered as in the datasheet of the component?

     

    AB

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    e14 Contributor over 15 years ago in reply to Richard_H

    Thank you Richard.

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    Richard_H over 15 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Am 21.03.2011 02:33, schrieb badbad2142:

    as an example:

    http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa14/badbad214/Eagle/legnumber.jpg

     

    on this component from the library how do you know if the pin and gates are numbered as in the datasheet of the component?

     

    AB

     

     

     

    SET PAD ON or OFF

    or go to Options/Set/Misc menu and look for "Display pad names".

     

     

    --

    Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Best regards

    Richard Hammerl

      CadSoft Support -- hotline@cadsoft.de

      FAQ: http://www.cadsoft.de/faq.htm

     

     

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