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Eagle upgrade costs

stevekale

I use the Make version of Eagle - something I may now come to regret versus starting with an open source package from the beginning.

 

I am not using the software for commercial use, rather for DIY audio electronics.  But I now need a board area greater than 16cm x 10cm. For my current project, I need about 20cm of length.  There appears to be nothing between Make and Ultimate for commercial use (with or without Autorouter which I do not use).

 

I wanted to check the upgrade cost yet when I enter my user license online to get an instant quote for upgrading  I merely get the  cost of buying a version from scratch - including an option to buy what I already have for what I have already paid.  Rather daft.

 

How to get the correct upgrade costs?  And am I the only one that would like to see a non-commercial offering with a larger board area at a more sensible price? (I will never need 4m x 4m board area, nor more than 4 signal layers.)  This is the sort of thing which forces people to learn KiCad or another competitor product.

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    Is there going to be a credit for those of us who have an older license when moving to the new subscription model?

  • 0 in reply to 914paul

    Paul Ryan wrote on Sat, 11 February 2017 15:01

    Is there going to be a credit for those of us who have an older license

    when moving to the new subscription model?

     

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    What license do you currently have? I believe there is currently a 50%

    discount on 1 year subscriptions for existing v7 license holders.

     

    Best Regards,

     

    Rachael

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  • 0 in reply to rachaelp

    Hello,

     

    Even with a 50% of reduction on 1 year subscription, it will be 'no thank for me'.

     

    Sorry guys, but you when to far for me, an also for my boss...

    I have my own private pro license (as hobbyist) and at work, I use the license of my company. I will not migrate to the V8 version and I think that my boss will probably to the same.

     

    1.If you want to buy a car you don't go to a rent office.

    I want to buy a license, no to rent it, and that is not negotiable. So if Eagle licenses are not for sale anymore, but only for renting, then I guess that I will simply don't go to the Eagle sales offices ! (simple!)

     

    2. Until now I didn't use the autorouter, and so I never bought it. Now I will not have the choice any more, and so the price is absolutely not the same !

    I dislike this way of forcing to buy something you don't want to, so I avoid those situations. Then I guess that, starting from now, I will avoid Eagle....

     

    3.To force people to create an account and to connect to Autodesk server every 14 days... Woww That a real improvement ! That was the most critical problem of Eagle v7 !!!! lol

    a- No one can force me to create a account if I don"t want to.

    b- I don't want to give any single personal single data on me, on a account I don't want to create, account on a web site of a company I will not trust any more !

    c- I use Eagle on a PC that is not and will not be connected on internet (for security issues) so... I'm screwed. At least I would understand an activation by internet, once during installation, but every 14 days: this a joke ?

     

    4. Just a little thing, I'm concern about protecting software since I work in a company that provide software ! We use different ways of protecting our products (we develop our own USB protecting dongle, or we can propose the use of license server etc... )

    But  we :

    a- propose to our customer different solutions of protection (dongle, licensee server etc ..) and he could choose the one; we don't impose just one.

    b- we never (and probably ever) don't use the rent only model. A license is for SALE and a the maintenance/support contract is a RENT. Both are separate things.

         WE NEVER IMPOSE THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT to a customer who buy a license !

         why ?

         By using the renting only model you just force your customers to have a maintenance contract, and worse, the licensee will perish at the end of the period !

     

     

    I may be wrong but I think you just lose the trust between you and some of your customers (2 at least: me and my boss).

     

    Believe me you don't have to impose a subscription. As I said, my company SELL licenses that will never expire. And we also propose a maintenance contract (with support, updates etc...) but only for customer who want it !

    And guess what ?

    In more than 95% of purchased licenses, customers also take out a maintenance contract !

     

    Why ?

    A - We listen to their needs, and don't sell what they don't need !

    B - They have the feeling of not been attached, of having the choice.

    C - TRUST

    D - the quality, the performance etc...

    ...

    Z - Certainly NOT because that we impose it !

     

    So bye bye Eagle.

     

    I think that I will continue for a while with the Eagle V7, then I will try other software.... But I will not continue to invest my time with Eagle....

     

    Note that I did not said that I will change my decision if you change your policy, because I think I wouldn't. 

    Simple because, I don't trust  Eagle anymore, so... I would certainly prefer to use my time to learn another software...

     

    Sorry,

     

    Guillaume Barrey

     

  • 0 in reply to kikoun

    I agree with all the above

    Since 10 years I upgraded every time, but that is gone forever

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