Eagle upgrade costs

Is there going to be a credit for those of us who have an older license when moving to the new subscription model?

Paul Ryan wrote on Sat, 11 February 2017 15:01

Is there going to be a credit for those of us who have an older license

when moving to the new subscription model?

 

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What license do you currently have? I believe there is currently a 50%

discount on 1 year subscriptions for existing v7 license holders.

Best Regards,

Rachael

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Hello Rachel,

Thank you for your response and I completely understand your point of view. I right, maybe future will bring a really nice great Eagle version, with permanent licensing scheme, possibility to choose to buy or not the auto-router feature etc......

And you right too, I may I will buy it.

But, as I said, the trust is some thing you build slowly in a long term relationship, that can be destroyed as fast as a finger snapping.

And worse, it's far longer to rebuild a trust that had been destroyed than to build it from scratch with someone new.

The second problem is that in that particular case, there is an impression of been hostage.  Let me explain it (with my bad English, sorry guys ...).

Working with this kind of software is a huge time and work investment. Like other software you have to learn it. But you also build your libraries. And that is a huge precious thing.

So when you have to choose which software you will use you have to be sure that this investment  will not be crushed or locked by a bunch of financial directors in a huge company that don't care about your time and work.

In a word: I can not say that I will never buy a new eagle version again... it's just that it would not be that easy, and a simple fantastic new version would not be enough.

And directors should have though about that BEFORE destroying the trust of their customer.... it would be easier for Casdsoft....

Guillaume

Am 25.02.2017 um 12:29 schrieb Guillaume barrey:

And directors should have though about that BEFORE destroying the trust of their customer.... it would be easier for Casdsoft....

I'm quite confident that this was well thought of. They were fully aware

that they would loose the majority of the existing customer base. This

is where the price-explosion comes into play: You need only a few people

stupid enough to support this nonsense and everything is fine again. And

it gets even better with every new user.

Expect it to stay as it is.

rk wrote on Sat, 25 February 2017 13:36

Am 25.02.2017 um 12:29 schrieb Guillaume barrey:

And directors should have though about that BEFORE destroying the

trust of their customer.... it would be easier for Casdsoft....

 

I'm quite confident that this was well thought of. They were fully

aware

that they would loose the majority of the existing customer base. This

is where the price-explosion comes into play: You need only a few

people

stupid enough to support this nonsense and everything is fine again.

And

it gets even better with every new user.

 

Expect it to stay as it is.

It's comments like this that are contributing to further fracturing the

community and it's really not productive.

You can choose to deal with the changes in EAGLE licensing how you see fit

for your situation, but you are not in any position to brand other people

stupid because they don't necessarily agree with your point of view. Many

perhaps don't like it but equally don't want to throw away years of

experience and investment in their setup, libraries etc. Please have

respect for the opinions of others.

Best Regards,

Rachael

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rk wrote on Sat, 25 February 2017 13:36

Am 25.02.2017 um 12:29 schrieb Guillaume barrey:

And directors should have though about that BEFORE destroying the

trust of their customer.... it would be easier for Casdsoft....

 

I'm quite confident that this was well thought of. They were fully

aware

that they would loose the majority of the existing customer base. This

is where the price-explosion comes into play: You need only a few

people

stupid enough to support this nonsense and everything is fine again.

And

it gets even better with every new user.

 

Expect it to stay as it is.

It's comments like this that are contributing to further fracturing the

community and it's really not productive.

You can choose to deal with the changes in EAGLE licensing how you see fit

for your situation, but you are not in any position to brand other people

stupid because they don't necessarily agree with your point of view. Many

perhaps don't like it but equally don't want to throw away years of

experience and investment in their setup, libraries etc. Please have

respect for the opinions of others.

Best Regards,

Rachael

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Am 25.02.2017 um 14:46 schrieb Rachael:

perhaps don't like it but equally don't want to throw away years of

experience and investment in their setup, libraries etc. Please have

So if I don't subscribe I'm doomed to throw away my experience,

libraries, setup and so on? Why?

Am 25.02.2017 um 14:46 schrieb Rachael:

perhaps don't like it but equally don't want to throw away years of

experience and investment in their setup, libraries etc. Please have

So if I don't subscribe I'm doomed to throw away my experience,

libraries, setup and so on? Why?

rk wrote on Sat, 25 February 2017 14:20

Am 25.02.2017 um 14:46 schrieb Rachael:

perhaps don't like it but equally don't want to throw away years

of

experience and investment in their setup, libraries etc. Please

have

 

So if I don't subscribe I'm doomed to throw away my experience,

libraries, setup and so on? Why?

You know full well that's not what I was saying. You're just annoyed

because I called you out for calling people stupid.

But to answer your question, no you are not doomed to throw anything away

because you don't subscribe. You can still use the existing version of

EAGLE you have indefinitely. Some people will subscribe, some will stick

with what they have, I'm personally sticking with v7 and waiting until I

see how things progress, other people are however actively migrating to

other packages. Each to their own, everybody has to do what is right for

them and calling people stupid for their choice isn't really on.

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rk wrote on Sat, 25 February 2017 14:20

Am 25.02.2017 um 14:46 schrieb Rachael:

perhaps don't like it but equally don't want to throw away years

of

experience and investment in their setup, libraries etc. Please

have

 

So if I don't subscribe I'm doomed to throw away my experience,

libraries, setup and so on? Why?

You know full well that's not what I was saying. You're just annoyed

because I called you out for calling people stupid.

But to answer your question, no you are not doomed to throw anything away

because you don't subscribe. You can still use the existing version of

EAGLE you have indefinitely. Some people will subscribe, some will stick

with what they have, I'm personally sticking with v7 and waiting until I

see how things progress, other people are however actively migrating to

other packages. Each to their own, everybody has to do what is right for

them and calling people stupid for their choice isn't really on.

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EAGLE support forums at http://www.eaglecentral.ca :: Where the EAGLE community meets.

On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 16:20:54 +0000 (UTC), Uwe Bonnes

<bon@hertz.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote:

levafreidin <noreply-59652@element14.com> wrote:

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Can you recommend the adequate replacement of EAGLE?

 

Use an eagle Versiin below 8 ...

Be sure to use the Linux version.  The commercial OS vendors will ease

your version right out from under you in a couple of years.

The Linux philosophy is not to break things.  I use Ubuntu Linux and

have Eagle 4, 5, 6 and 7 installed on Rev 16.04 LTS.

Really though, you're better off using a package under active

development that will keep up with OS changes.  My new choice is

KiCAD.

John

John DeArmond

http://www.neon-john.com

http://www.tnduction.com

Tellico Plains, Occupied TN

See website for email address

On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 13:46:15 +0000, Rachael <rachael@rachellie.co.uk>

wrote:

You can choose to deal with the changes in EAGLE licensing how you see fit

for your situation, but you are not in any position to brand other people

stupid because they don't necessarily agree with your point of view. Many

perhaps don't like it but equally don't want to throw away years of

experience and investment in their setup, libraries etc. Please have

respect for the opinions of others.

I'm too polite to use the word "stupid" but I think that people who

rely on an AutoDesk product that AutoDesk has bought are using poor

judgement.  AutoDesk is famous for buying up little companies and if

they don't "make the numbers", killing them off after sucking out

their guts.

With the mass migration away from Eagle that this rental scheme is

causing, there is no way I'm going to trust Eagle to make the numbers

and be around for the long haul.  I have to have something that both I

and my customers can rely on.

John

John DeArmond

http://www.neon-john.com

http://www.tnduction.com

Tellico Plains, Occupied TN

See website for email address

On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 13:46:15 +0000, Rachael <rachael@rachellie.co.uk>

wrote:

You can choose to deal with the changes in EAGLE licensing how you see fit

for your situation, but you are not in any position to brand other people

stupid because they don't necessarily agree with your point of view. Many

perhaps don't like it but equally don't want to throw away years of

experience and investment in their setup, libraries etc. Please have

respect for the opinions of others.

I'm too polite to use the word "stupid" but I think that people who

rely on an AutoDesk product that AutoDesk has bought are using poor

judgement.  AutoDesk is famous for buying up little companies and if

they don't "make the numbers", killing them off after sucking out

their guts.

With the mass migration away from Eagle that this rental scheme is

causing, there is no way I'm going to trust Eagle to make the numbers

and be around for the long haul.  I have to have something that both I

and my customers can rely on.

John

John DeArmond

http://www.neon-john.com

http://www.tnduction.com

Tellico Plains, Occupied TN

See website for email address