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Straition lines printing in filled areas

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Former Member over 10 years ago

OS= Win 8.1

Eagle = 7.2

 

I have a direct to board print setup. That is, I print directly on the copper clad, straight out of Eagle. I have noticed that the fill lines are showing. I have found where others have had this issue, but I have not understood what to do to resolve the problem. This problem also occurs when I print the PCB to pdf format. I have read that it has to do with Eagle using lines to cover the filled area and that changing the line width and the fill style might be helpful. But, then, there are no instructions on how to do these operations and no feedback as to whether it worked, or not. Would someone please be so kind as to tell me the definitive cure and the steps to complete the task? I would be very grateful. Eagle files and libraries are attached. The problem is very clear in the pdf format. Thank you very much for your help.

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  • clem57
    clem57 over 10 years ago +1
    Maybe you need to do a Polygon command setting the color. See PCB Creation with Eagle for Beginners : The Ground Plane There is more about polygon HOW-TO: Polygons and ground fills for PCBs in Eagle |…
  • balearicdynamics
    balearicdynamics over 10 years ago +1
    t1d I have downloaded the attached zip file and opened it on eagle checking for the schematics you included in PDF. The point is that the pdf is different than the schematics you attached, as in the image…
  • Bertl
    Bertl over 10 years ago in reply to balearicdynamics +1
    If you press the button "Ratsnest" (first one in the last button section, the one with the connected nodes), you will see that the area enclosed by the dashed line will fill up (flood) the free space around…
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  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 10 years ago

    I have not discovered the definitive answer, so I am bumping up the queue, to keep the thread fresh.

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    0 autodeskguest over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    On 27.05.2015 23:34, Tee Dunn wrote:

    I have not discovered the definitive answer, so I am bumping up the

    queue, to keep the thread fresh.

     

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    To view any images and attachments in this post, visit:

    http://www.element14.com/community/message/150912

     

     

    Can you post a screenshot of what you see? I can't see lines in the pdf

    you attached. Are you printing the pdf direct, or do you print direct

    from Eagle to whatever device you got?

     

    If you get white lines in the fill, it probably have to do with

    precision and rouding effects. I've had issues with gerber files

    outputted with too low (standard!) resolution causing a fill-line to

    appear a tiny unit below the one above.

     

    The Eagle fill does add some overlap and there have been discussions

    earlier about increasing it, but not sure if anything happened (try

    check the manual). In fact the overlap used to be too small for the

    standard gerber res. It just got rounded off.

     

    My workaround was always to output gerbers with 6 decimals, however, for

    PDF I wouldn't know what to do. You could try the free "pdf creator"

    printer driver and set higher dpi maybe.

     

     

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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    Hi! Thanks for your help...

     

    Can you post a screenshot of what you see? I can't see lines in the pdf you attached.

    Scroll up to post #4 and click on the graphics to expand them to full screen. Look at the black pad that is in the group. You can see it there.

     

    Are you printing the pdf direct, or do you print direct from Eagle to whatever device you got?

    I have printed it both ways and I get the lines both ways.

     

    The Eagle fill does add some overlap and there have been discussions earlier about increasing it, but not sure if anything happened (try check the manual). In fact the overlap used to be too small for the standard gerber res. It just got rounded off.

    I have not been able to find the function to change the overlap... This function is exactly what I need... I have done lots of looking for it... Can you find it and point me to it?

     

    Thanks so much for your interest!

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    0 autodeskguest over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    On 28.05.2015 10:31, Tee Dunn wrote:

    Hi! Thanks for your help...

     

    +Can you post a screenshot of what you see? I can't see lines in the pdf

    you attached.+

    Scroll up to post #4 and click on the graphics to expand them to full

    screen. Look at the black pad that is in the group. You can see it

    there.

     

    +Are you printing the pdf direct, or do you print direct from Eagle to

    whatever device you got?+

    I have printed it both ways and I get the lines both ways.

     

    +The Eagle fill does add some overlap and there have been discussions

    earlier about increasing it, but not sure if anything happened (try

    check the manual). In fact the overlap used to be too small for the

    standard gerber res. It just got rounded off.+

    I have not been able to find the function to change the overlap... This

    function is exactly what I need... I have done lots of looking for it...

    Can you find it and point me to it?

     

    Thanks so much for your interest!

     

    What device are you printing to? The screenshot in #4 was a bit low

    resolution and ends up looking like a scanned print from an old

    fashioned dot matrix printer or some ink jet printer with a dirty head.

     

    As I mentioned for the overlap, there was just talks about it. I dont

    know if they even have a parameter for it, you gotta check the manual ,

    or old postings yourself.

     

    I opened your project in 6.5.4 and saw some lines on the pdf at some

    scaling factors, but when zoomin in, they disappear. I guess this is

    because of rounding errors in pdf viewer's scaler.

     

    I also did try a print to pdf creator but end up with the same artifacts

    when scaling. I suspect that Eagle prints to pdf in too low resolution

    to cover the overlap, even if it appears to do 1200dpi.

     

    PS:If you plan to print this onto transparent sheet for photoresist

    transfer, I suggest you mirror it and lay the printed side toward the

    pcb. This gives better focus. But I guess this is old tech these days.

     

     

     

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    0 autodeskguest over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    On 28.05.2015 10:31, Tee Dunn wrote:

    Hi! Thanks for your help...

     

    +Can you post a screenshot of what you see? I can't see lines in the pdf

    you attached.+

    Scroll up to post #4 and click on the graphics to expand them to full

    screen. Look at the black pad that is in the group. You can see it

    there.

     

    +Are you printing the pdf direct, or do you print direct from Eagle to

    whatever device you got?+

    I have printed it both ways and I get the lines both ways.

     

    +The Eagle fill does add some overlap and there have been discussions

    earlier about increasing it, but not sure if anything happened (try

    check the manual). In fact the overlap used to be too small for the

    standard gerber res. It just got rounded off.+

    I have not been able to find the function to change the overlap... This

    function is exactly what I need... I have done lots of looking for it...

    Can you find it and point me to it?

     

    Thanks so much for your interest!

     

    What device are you printing to? The screenshot in #4 was a bit low

    resolution and ends up looking like a scanned print from an old

    fashioned dot matrix printer or some ink jet printer with a dirty head.

     

    As I mentioned for the overlap, there was just talks about it. I dont

    know if they even have a parameter for it, you gotta check the manual ,

    or old postings yourself.

     

    I opened your project in 6.5.4 and saw some lines on the pdf at some

    scaling factors, but when zoomin in, they disappear. I guess this is

    because of rounding errors in pdf viewer's scaler.

     

    I also did try a print to pdf creator but end up with the same artifacts

    when scaling. I suspect that Eagle prints to pdf in too low resolution

    to cover the overlap, even if it appears to do 1200dpi.

     

    PS:If you plan to print this onto transparent sheet for photoresist

    transfer, I suggest you mirror it and lay the printed side toward the

    pcb. This gives better focus. But I guess this is old tech these days.

     

     

     

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  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to autodeskguest

    1) The striations appear no matter what printer I am using. The striations also appear, if I print to pdf.

    2) I am aware of the creed that I am responsible to do my own research. I have spent several hours digging through the internet and reading the manual. Since I could not find the answer, I asked for help, here. I was just hopeful that, if you thought you had seen the answer, you might remember where you saw it, or that you might be able to find it, if you looked, again. I don't know where you looked, so I can't go to those locations and look for myself... That is why I asked for you to give it another look.

    3) Good tip on printing a transparency.

     

    Thanks for your continued help.

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    0 autodeskguest over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    On 29.05.2015 02:28, Tee Dunn wrote:

    1) The striations appear no matter what printer I am using. The

    striations also appear, if I print to pdf.

    2) I am aware of the creed that I am responsible to do my own research.

    I have spent several hours digging through the internet and reading the

    manual. Since I could not find the answer, I asked for help, here. I was

    just hopeful that, if you thought you had seen the answer, you might

    remember where you saw it.

    3) Good tip on printing a transparency.

     

    Thanks for your continued help.

     

    I tried printing your pdf to a printer, and there were no lines visible.

    It was black and solid.

     

    Maybe the lines on the pdf is a pdf viewer issue only?

     

     

     

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