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USB Thumb Drive Causing Reboots

GeorgeIoak
GeorgeIoak over 14 years ago

I know this has been discussed both here and over on the RPi forums. A lot of talk has gone into the power rails but I haven't seen anyone definitely finding what actually causes the RPi to reboot. I have a "newer" Rev 1 board which has zero ohm resistors at the USB power lines. By adding extra capacitance I can eliminate the reboots but the drive is not always enumerated.

 

Measuring on the scope I can see the 5V rail dip a bit but the 3.3V and 1.8V appear to be stable. I'm powering the RPi through the GPIO header so that would bypass the F1 fuse at the incoming rail.

 

I'm wondering if I'm missing something glitching on the 1.8V rail or is this some type of kernel error causing the reboot? I don't see anything in the log files but I'm also not a Linux guru so maybe I'm not looking in the right places. I did ask this question the other day on the RPi forums but it seems like more engineers hang out here so I'm hoping to eliminate the fluffy comments and opinions.

 

If I missed this somewhere I apologize but hope you'll point me to the right thread.

 

I haven't torn apart a Roku2 but I see that it uses the same LAN9512 and BCM2835 so I'd be curious to see how they did their layout. I can see limiiting the current with the poly fuses but once those are gone and you have a supply with plenty of current and a strong rail I don't see why inserting a drive should cause a reboot. Perhaps this is all related to the problem of the LAN9512 1.8V output tied to the RPi 1.8V rail?

 

Looking forward to hearing what this community has to say!

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago

    The soc has direct connections to the 5V rail. Maybe it has a buildin brownout detection that resets the soc when it sees a voltage dip on the 5V

    If you look at the Olimex board, you will see some 100uF capacitors close to the usb connectors.

    They also have a MIC2026-1BMMIC2026-1BM chip in the power lines and a coil. That last one might limit the surge current when a device is plugged in. The MIC allows to switch the usb device power off so that a device can be enumerated without restarting the board.

    The Pi is cheaper....but you only get what you payed for...

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago

    The soc has direct connections to the 5V rail. Maybe it has a buildin brownout detection that resets the soc when it sees a voltage dip on the 5V

    If you look at the Olimex board, you will see some 100uF capacitors close to the usb connectors.

    They also have a MIC2026-1BMMIC2026-1BM chip in the power lines and a coil. That last one might limit the surge current when a device is plugged in. The MIC allows to switch the usb device power off so that a device can be enumerated without restarting the board.

    The Pi is cheaper....but you only get what you payed for...

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