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POWER FOR SOLENOID VALVE

Afiq
Afiq over 1 year ago

When 36W supply to specification 16W solenoid valve normally open, is there is effect to the solenoid valve?

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  • Anthocyanina
    Anthocyanina over 1 year ago in reply to Afiq +5
    your valve works with 230V AC, it will not work (to specification, if at all) with a 24V power supply
  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 1 year ago in reply to Andrew J +4
    Maybe ordered the wrong one? There is a 24 V version:
  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 1 year ago in reply to shabaz +3
    The article is a bit misleading since it refers to inrush current when it means current when the solenoid armature is extended out of the coil. It may common to describe it this way but it's not that helpful…
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  • robogary
    0 robogary over 1 year ago

    Solenoids are inductors. There is a holding current (power) and inrush current.

    The power supply needs to match the required voltage of the solenoid, provide the holding current, and also stay reasonably stiff to maintain voltage during short inrush current.

    It depends on the solenoid inrush current whether the 36w power source has enough power to survive turning on. A capacitor across the power supply can help provide extra energy during the inrush when the solenoid is turned on.

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 1 year ago in reply to robogary

    Holding current is actually higher than initial current for a solenoid, since the solenoid appears like an inductor. It's not the same as (say) a DC motor, which will have a higher initial (inrush) current (unless it's stalled).

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  • kmikemoo
    0 kmikemoo over 1 year ago in reply to Afiq

    Afiq You have overloaded your 24V power source.  The solenoid that you have provided a picture of, as Anthocyanina stated, is made to be powered with 230V AC.  Using a lower voltage source will not provide sufficient power to create the magnetism required to move the plunger.  Also, if the coil is made for AC and not DC, putting DC into it will also not provide sufficient power to create the magnetism required to move the plunger.

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  • anniel747
    0 anniel747 over 1 year ago in reply to shabaz

    Page12.

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  • Afiq
    0 Afiq over 1 year ago in reply to kmikemoo

    Alright. Well note kmikemoo . I get your point.

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  • Afiq
    0 Afiq over 1 year ago in reply to Afiq

    image  This is voltage before attach the solenoid valve coil.

    image This is voltage after attach the solenoid valve coil

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  • Afiq
    0 Afiq over 1 year ago in reply to Afiq

    During this situation, the Solenoid Valve can't be close. So what is the issue?

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  • Anthocyanina
    0 Anthocyanina over 1 year ago in reply to Afiq

    the issue is that you are using 10% of the rated voltage of the solenoid. the voltage drops because the solenoid is a very big load for your power supply because it is specified to work with 10 times the voltage you are using

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  • Afiq
    0 Afiq over 1 year ago in reply to Anthocyanina

    So, we need at least 230V to trigger the solenoid valve, and the load for power supply also specified with 230V?

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  • Andrew J
    0 Andrew J over 1 year ago in reply to Afiq

    It really sounds like you should get a qualified electrician involved to look at the whole thing, not just the solenoid.  If you can’t grasp that 230v is required to drive it in spite of the label you really ought not to be working with that voltage level.  It can kill you as quick as, or anyone who looks at it in future if it isn’t installed properly.

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  • Afiq
    0 Afiq over 1 year ago in reply to Andrew J

    I see, well noted. about the solenoid valve when it comes to trigger the signal we have test by using our own converter and it can function to trigger. But when use the power source the valve not function to trigger close. Can use advise how the best way to troubleshoot this issue?

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    0 Afiq over 1 year ago in reply to Afiq

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    This is the issue regarding valve not trigger to close.

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    0 Afiq over 1 year ago in reply to Afiq

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    This is the issue regarding valve not trigger to close.

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  • Afiq
    0 Afiq over 1 year ago in reply to Afiq

    Anyone can help advise me to solve this issue?

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 1 year ago in reply to Afiq

    For this problem, it's best to call in a professional, let them check out your electrical system design, and get someone qualified to install a replacement if needed. It's not even a majorly expensive part, but that alone no longer seems to be the entire issue; you may also have system or design related problems, so it's best to get an expert to check it all out.

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