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PL-based processors and PS-based processors communication

manili
manili over 7 years ago

Hello everyone,

 

Would someone help me find the answer to the following questions:

I have a ZCU104 board (Zynq Ultrascale+) and I want to program the PL with multiple tiny processing cores. As far as I know, the 2GB DDR4 SDRAM is connecting to the PS part of the chip, so I cannot connect my tiny processing cores to the memory directly.

1. How can I share the memory among all processing cores inside both PS (4 x ARM Cortex-A53) and PL (for example MicroBlaze or RISC-V)?

2. If it is not possible then how can these processing units talk to each other?

Thanks a lot.

P.S. Please take a look at page 24:

https://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/boards_and_kits/zcu104/ug1267-zcu104-eval-bd.pdf

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  • gecoz
    gecoz over 7 years ago in reply to manili +2
    Hi Mohammad, There are many different ways to design memory architectures for multi-cores systems, and ultimately it depends on the goal set for your system. It is quite a vast area of study, but here…
  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 7 years ago +2
    There is almost no point at all in programming the FPGA part of a Zynq with lots of little processors each with access to the system DDRAM - why - because the access to the DDRAM will make a bottleneck…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 7 years ago +1
    Hi Mohammad, I'm not an expert (complete beginner actually - day #1) so this could be completely wrong: wouldn't DMA via AMBA AXI interfaces be used for this?
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    shabaz over 7 years ago

    Hi Mohammad,

     

    I'm not an expert (complete beginner actually - day #1) so this could be completely wrong:  wouldn't DMA via AMBA AXI interfaces be used for this?

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    manili over 7 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Dear shabaz ,

     

    I think this is the correct answer, but I'm not sure about it just like you. However, the problem shows itself when we are going to design a many-core system. Now how to handle it? Should we create an arbiter which talks to the DMA or is it better/possible to create an L2 cache as a middle-man to talk to the DDR4 RAM?

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    shabaz over 7 years ago in reply to manili

    Not sure I'm afraid : (

    It may be a comp-sci type of question though.. maybe authors like Hennessy & Patterson may have written about the ways to implement this, e.g. maybe even using a packet switching capability. I've never implemented it myself. Hopefully others can chime in, it's beyond my knowledge area : (

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    gecoz over 7 years ago in reply to manili

    Hi Mohammad,

     

    There are many different ways to design memory architectures for multi-cores systems, and ultimately it depends on the goal set for your system. It is quite a vast area of study, but here you can find some presentation slides that go over some common architectures used. I'm afraid I'm not an expert either on multi-core memory design, but at least the slide should give you some pointers on where to dig for more in-depth information.

     

    Fabio

     

    P.S: for DDR4 access from PL, there was a similar question posted for the ZCU102 dev board on the Xilinx forum. I know the two boards are quite different, yet I think the information might still be useful.

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    gecoz over 7 years ago in reply to manili

    Hi Mohammad,

     

    There are many different ways to design memory architectures for multi-cores systems, and ultimately it depends on the goal set for your system. It is quite a vast area of study, but here you can find some presentation slides that go over some common architectures used. I'm afraid I'm not an expert either on multi-core memory design, but at least the slide should give you some pointers on where to dig for more in-depth information.

     

    Fabio

     

    P.S: for DDR4 access from PL, there was a similar question posted for the ZCU102 dev board on the Xilinx forum. I know the two boards are quite different, yet I think the information might still be useful.

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