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Solder station selection

davebullockmbe
davebullockmbe over 6 years ago

Hi everyone,

Having worked for many years with an ERSA  Analog 60A and then an ERSA  Digital 2000A both equipped with the TechTool iron I am spoiled when it comes to choosing a similar machine.

My son is getting interested in electronic construction and a solder station for Christmas seems like a great present.

However to set him up with a full ERSA kit with spare tips and maybe a replacement heating element would be well over £500.

I love the ERSA ease of tip change and the instant availability of continuous heat when soldering large components (you can solder a washer to a battleship..LOL) but how do less expensive setups perform?

Each alternative I follow up has both glowing praise and dire reviews in equal measure, it's so confusing!

So what are you you all using, and can I have some recommendations/warnings of what to choose/avoid from the Farnell range please?

Thanks in anticipation.....

Dave

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  • dougw
    dougw over 6 years ago +5
    I have several irons, but the one I use all the time is an old Hakko 936 - it has worked consistently well for many years. There seem to be other companies either cloning or licensing Hakko designs. This…
  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 6 years ago +4
    I'd keep it very simple for a kid. It's not the gear that counts, but the pleasure of soldering.
  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 6 years ago +3
    I've been using i-con picos for years (since ERSA stopped supporting the big expensive station I had.) I've found them to be pretty good. I also have an RS Pr Ds90 which is good for heavier work and has…
  • hlipka
    hlipka over 6 years ago

    I'm using a ERSA i-con pico for several years now, and I really like it. Heats up quite fast, and has no problems controlling the temperature. Only drawback: its non-antistatic (its not grounded), you would need the i-con nano for that.

    For someone starting in electronics one of the cheaper T12 soldering stations might be better, though. I have one as replacement (should the pico ever fail), and it also works quite well (though the hand-set is not as nice as the one from the ERSA).

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 6 years ago

    I've been using i-con picos for years (since ERSA stopped supporting the big expensive station I had.) I've found them to be pretty good. I also have an RS Pr Ds90 which is good for heavier work and has given no trouble at all.

     

    A variety of cheap Chinese temperature controlled irons have been OK until they go wrong, which has usually happened quite quickly.

     

    MK

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  • davebullockmbe
    davebullockmbe over 6 years ago in reply to hlipka

    Thanks Hendrik,

    That's just the sort of operational insight I needed, I will check out the ERSA icon-pico now.

    Dave

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  • davebullockmbe
    davebullockmbe over 6 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Hi Michael,

    Many thanks for your swift reply.

    Just what I needed 'hands on' experience of a recommended tool.

    Is the temperature detected right at the tip like on the 'techtool'? and how do you change tips.

    Is the tip retained by a threaded sleeve like the old TCP Weller irons, but the sleeve has a bakelite (thermally safe) thumbwheel so you don't burn your fingers?

    From the datasheet it doesn't make it very clear.

    Thanks

    Dave

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 6 years ago in reply to davebullockmbe

    This is the tip from my i-con pico

     

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    The iron slides inside the tip right up to where it starts to taper.

     

    The plastic ring does get pretty hot.

     

    MK

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  • dougw
    dougw over 6 years ago

    I have several irons, but the one I use all the time is an old Hakko 936 - it has worked consistently well for many years. There seem to be other companies either cloning or licensing Hakko designs. This model does not have a digital thermometer, I set the temperature to a point where I can make a joint quickly. As with just about all irons, the temperature control setting needs to change based on thermal mass of the tip and thermal mass of the component and area of the trace. I have a "feel" for what will work for any given situation, so I pretty much set the temperature automatically without thinking. I don't even know what the temperature is, I just know how long I want to take to make a good joint. Temperature is marked on the dial, but I have never checked to see if it is accurate. Obviously it doesn't measure the temperature right at the tip and that temperature there will fluctuate depending on what it is touching. I generally use a fairly fine point tip, but might swap it for a bigger one if the job requires a lot of heat.

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  • jadew
    jadew over 6 years ago

    Hey Dave,

     

    You seem to be facing the same situation I am. Luckily, I can defer my son's request until next year as he is too young to handle a soldering station by himself, but I think I'll get him the Hakko FX-951.

     

    Seems like the station of choice for all the cool kids these days because it has the heater in the tip, so it has very good thermal recovery, and it has pretty colors too. I know a couple of folks in real life that got them for professional work and they're also happy with them.

     

    Cheers,
    Razvan

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 6 years ago

    I'd keep it very simple for a kid. It's not the gear that counts, but the pleasure of soldering.

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  • davebullockmbe
    davebullockmbe over 6 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Ah a picture is worth....

    Thanks now I understand, as I have found ERSA irons sooo reliable I think I am erring on buying a pico. Many thanks

    Dave

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  • davebullockmbe
    davebullockmbe over 6 years ago in reply to jadew

    Hi Razvan, thanks for the info will have a look at the Hakko kit.

    All the best

    Dave

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