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Have a question about the Next-Gen BeagleBone? Ask it here!

bluescreen
bluescreen over 12 years ago

There is a lot of excitement about TI's Next-Gen BeagleBone. If you have a specific question about its performance characteristics, tech specs, or anything else, post it as a reply to this thread. We are working closely with TI and will make sure to respond to your questions.  Thanks everyone!  Sagar

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 12 years ago in reply to Former Member +2
    Until we have some space to work in, I might as well add to this thread: I've not had much time to experiment with the board recently, but I had an hour today, and I tried powering the board from a battery…
  • shobhitkukreti
    shobhitkukreti over 12 years ago +1
    I just ordered a Beagle Bone. What will be the difference in the present beagle bone and the next gen beagle bone ?
  • jkridner
    jkridner over 12 years ago in reply to johnbeetem +1
    The demo I've been showing here at ELC is using an Attic Lapdock. The only special hack required is a USB cable that doesn't short power sine the Lapdock sources power through a port that normally should…
  • jkridner
    jkridner over 12 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Thanks to devicetree and capemgr, you shouldn't even need to recompile (or often even reboot) to load entirely new drivers.

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  • jkridner
    jkridner over 12 years ago in reply to shobhitkukreti

    You can't get one today, but the original BeagleBone is available now and is highly compatible. The price reduction is fairly significant, but not yet announced.

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  • jkridner
    jkridner over 12 years ago in reply to Former Member

    The analog inputs are the same. They are limited to 1.8V.

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  • tcoder
    tcoder over 12 years ago

    Will there be any USB ports?  If so, how many?  How will this compare to the Raspberry Pi?

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to jkridner

    Hi

     

    yes I know about the 1.8 limit, like I said I have a design using them but having issues with noise on the inputs propably caused by insufficient PCB layout.

     

    So has any care been taking on this for the next version, and have you verified the analog inputs so you can confirm the issues?

     

    I would be such as waste to not address this on a new design!

     

    Michael

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 12 years ago

    What is the Ethernet data rate of the Next-Gen Beaglebone?  My application would require 1G to 10G.

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to shobhitkukreti

    @shobhitkukreti

    Hi,

     

    Let's see around about TI's university program, because in Europe there is ti.com/eup and for example our university (Technical University of Budapest) get some BBone's with a lower price, and students can use them for homeworks, and graduation projects.


    Gabor

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  • halherta
    halherta over 12 years ago

    My question is about the 2GB emmc. While its possible to install a minimal Ubuntu/Angstom in 2GB, If one needs a install a desktop environment, a bunch of libraries (say QT), a bunch of programs and Apache, one will need more that 2GB. I understand that we can still use SD card but how can one parition the root filesystem between the eMMC and the SD Flash to really maximize loading speeds ? Is this something that TI is looking at providing solutions for? or is it simply hoped that the community will figure it out ?

     

    Because if it will be difficult to use the eMMC along with SD, most people (wanting to run Linux) will default to using only the SD card and the 2GB eMMC will not be used.

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to halherta

    I'll try to be diplomatic but this comment is stupid. The BB was designed as an extremely low power, extremely high capacity, embedded controller. I have a BB running a web server and doing industrial control. It's like an Arduino on steriods. The NG BB has a more powerful processor and 8 times the RAM. Complaining that it doesn't have enough storage, well, buy a 1TB usb drive and it will have plenty of storage. The BB and NG BB are not high powered development systems. On the other hand, they are less than $100. The eMMC is there for when the unit is running as an embedded controller. For that, it's more than enough.

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  • halherta
    halherta over 12 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Bill,

    I already have a beaglebone running Ubuntu 13.04 + LXDE + QT and that combination requires 1.6+GB of flash. On my Raspberry Pi I'm running the slighly less bloated Raspbian (Debian Wheezy) + LXDE requires about 1.2GB.

     

    Sure if you want to toggle some gpios it doesn't matter, but if you want to build embedded GUI applications, run mini-servers or do any serious Linux stuff, 2GB of onboard flash is at the very best the bare minimum. Ofcourse one could always rely solely on the SD card but this means that the emmc will not be used as much (despite its superior performance) and that it would add to the cost of manufacturing the next-gen beaglebone unnecessarily. I would've much liked to see an emmc connector instead that allows users to choose the emmc capacity suited for their applications. Granted the BB & NG BB are very small boards and this may be non-ideal space wise.

     

    The BB and NG BB maynot be powerful  systems, but I'd expect them to do pretty much anything that the RasberryPi can do with its older and underpowered ARM11 core, especially the NG BB, since it will have HDMI and 512 MB of RAM.

     

    Running GUI applications, Minimal Desktop Environments  and servers should not be considered too much for these platforms.

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